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Mullvad becomes highest level of Tor Member (Shallot)

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Re: Mullvad becomes highest level of Tor Member (Shallot)

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Imagine using Mullvad VPN for entering Tor and realizing that your activity is transparent for Mullvad.

Isn’t that just how VPNs work / a typical risk with VPNs?

You gotta trust someone, somewhere.

Mullvad at least only requires that you use a PIN number instead of an ID.

Re: Mullvad becomes highest level of Tor Member (Shallot)

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> Those that understand privacy, actively work to improve anti-fingerprinting and to protect users against more advanced attacks - are even fewer. > We believe that the Tor Project is one such organisation. We share their values when it comes to human rights, freedom of expression, anti-censorship and online privacy. The Tor Project is primarily funded by the State Department and DARPA. Make of that as you will.

> The Tor Project is primarily funded by the State Department and DARPA. Make of that as you will. The Internet was funded by the US Gov and DARPA. Make of that as you will.

"was" being the operative term.

Tor Project is currently on the USG payroll.

Re: Mullvad becomes highest level of Tor Member (Shallot)

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> Those that understand privacy, actively work to improve anti-fingerprinting and to protect users against more advanced attacks - are even fewer. > We believe that the Tor Project is one such organisation. We share their values when it comes to human rights, freedom of expression, anti-censorship and online privacy. The Tor Project is primarily funded by the State Department and DARPA. Make of that as you will.

> The Tor Project is primarily funded by the State Department and DARPA. Make of that as you will.

PBS is funded by the US government. Make of that as you will.

Re: Mullvad becomes highest level of Tor Member (Shallot)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

...besides the US Government, TOR's largest benefactor by far. In case anyone needed reminding. https://www.torproject.org/static/findoc/2020-TorProject-For...

And I assume they have no means to spy on TOR traffic. :D

Au contraire: https://www.technologyreview.com/2020/02/08/349016/a-dark-we...

Re: Mullvad becomes highest level of Tor Member (Shallot)

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> Those that understand privacy, actively work to improve anti-fingerprinting and to protect users against more advanced attacks - are even fewer. > We believe that the Tor Project is one such organisation. We share their values when it comes to human rights, freedom of expression, anti-censorship and online privacy. The Tor Project is primarily funded by the State Department and DARPA. Make of that as you will.

> The Tor Project is primarily funded by the State Department and DARPA. Make of that as you will. PBS is funded by the US government. Make of that as you will.

What is your point? PBS indeed puts out blatant USG propaganda from time to time, including egregious instances like that al-Jolani hagiography from FRONTLINE. FRONTLINE in general is a total mess of misinformation when it comes to international issues.

Re: Mullvad becomes highest level of Tor Member (Shallot)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its creators can't be blamed for this. Just like we don't blame the post office for circulating CSAM and drugs. Unfortunately you can't have near-absolute privacy without some people abusing it. This is just a given. And if the US hadn't supplied tor, the bad actors would have used i2p or invented their own. By supplying the tech at least they have some measure of visibility.

People here are overwhelmingly against privacy when it enables criminals to hide. Almost every crypto thread is dominated by concerns about KYC and AML.

I don't think so? For example signal's decision to leave the UK if they mandate a back door was very well received here.

Re: Mullvad becomes highest level of Tor Member (Shallot)

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> Those that understand privacy, actively work to improve anti-fingerprinting and to protect users against more advanced attacks - are even fewer. > We believe that the Tor Project is one such organisation. We share their values when it comes to human rights, freedom of expression, anti-censorship and online privacy. The Tor Project is primarily funded by the State Department and DARPA. Make of that as you will.

> The Tor Project is primarily funded by the State Department and DARPA. Make of that as you will. PBS is funded by the US government. Make of that as you will.

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Re: Mullvad becomes highest level of Tor Member (Shallot)

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Shallot donor means annual donations in excess of $100k USD. From the Tor website[0], it appears Mullvad is the only donor in excess of $49k USD annually (and possibly the only donor above $10001 USD). [0] https://www.torproject.org/about/membership/

...besides the US Government, TOR's largest benefactor by far. In case anyone needed reminding. https://www.torproject.org/static/findoc/2020-TorProject-For...

The US Government also funded and build the Internet (or at least ARPAnet). The government also benefits from Tor being actually anonymous.

It is worth being aware of course, but to my knowledge we have no evidence that Federal law enforcement has used anything other than old fashioned detective work to solve any Tor related cases.

There's always the possibility of parallel construction, but I would expect some reasonable evidence supporting this in some high profile busts.

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