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Re: Gut microbes could drive brain disorders

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Post by Animatronio »

samstave wrote: post #26
11235813213455 wrote: post #21

I had schizophrenia and still have, but it's now not as prevalent after years of eating mostly vegetable, raw, and very ripe, fermented sometimes (like when peppers, onions, garlic for example are getting soft, people usually call them "rotten", but I prefer them like this actually, there can even be some bacteria formation on it, it doesn't matter). That with regular walking/running outdoor helped me so much. A typi…

Forgive the following joke, however, I feel you may like it: Spoken dead-pan style in Steven Wright's voice: - "I used to have schizophrenia, but they still have it"

Steven Wright the stand-up comedian or Steven Wright the serial killer?

Re: Gut microbes could drive brain disorders

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Post by precompute »

This is some real "duh" stuff: of course gut microbes do, you are what you eat.

People with coeliac are often depressed. Sugar gives a rush and destroys fooddopamine. For autism, there's the very questionable "parasite" treatment.

Also, reducing acidity works wonders. Even Tesla swore by it.

If anyone's interested in "fringe" nutrition stuff, look up Aajonus Vonderplanitz. A lot of poeple will reduce what he said to "carnivore diet" but it's much more than that. Ray Peat, similarly.

Re: Gut microbes could drive brain disorders

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Post by jredwards »

samstave wrote: post #26
11235813213455 wrote: post #21

I had schizophrenia and still have, but it's now not as prevalent after years of eating mostly vegetable, raw, and very ripe, fermented sometimes (like when peppers, onions, garlic for example are getting soft, people usually call them "rotten", but I prefer them like this actually, there can even be some bacteria formation on it, it doesn't matter). That with regular walking/running outdoor helped me so much. A typi…

Forgive the following joke, however, I feel you may like it: Spoken dead-pan style in Steven Wright's voice: - "I used to have schizophrenia, but they still have it"

Mitch Hedberg?

“I used to do drugs. I still do, but I used to, too.”

Re: Gut microbes could drive brain disorders

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Post by car »

samstave wrote: post #26
11235813213455 wrote: post #21

I had schizophrenia and still have, but it's now not as prevalent after years of eating mostly vegetable, raw, and very ripe, fermented sometimes (like when peppers, onions, garlic for example are getting soft, people usually call them "rotten", but I prefer them like this actually, there can even be some bacteria formation on it, it doesn't matter). That with regular walking/running outdoor helped me so much. A typi…

Forgive the following joke, however, I feel you may like it: Spoken dead-pan style in Steven Wright's voice: - "I used to have schizophrenia, but they still have it"

Please don't perpetuate misunderstandings about schizophrenia. It has nothing to do with multiple personalities.

https://www.webmd.com/schizophrenia/schizophrenia-myths-and-...

Re: Gut microbes could drive brain disorders

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Post by everybodyknows »

zargon wrote: post #45
throwaway482940 wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's hard to say. The diet was vegan, but it was a poorly implemented vegan diet. I was basically eating a lot of fruit and legumes, far too much fruit I should say. Once I started having the digestive issues, I started reading about it on the Internet, and I came across some sites talking about copper overload, how vegan diets inevitably suffer from an inbalance between zinc and copper, but I'm not sure if it's pseu…

Your microbiome takes time to adapt to what you're eating and if you drastically increased fiber suddenly, it was likely not prepared for it. It could also have had a weak ability to deal with certain types of fiber. Often it's oligosaccharides (beans). The FODMAP process helps you figure out which fiber your gut may be sensitive to and then you can start low and gradually increase it over time.

The Baliza app was helpful in figuring out my own food intolerances.

Re: Gut microbes could drive brain disorders

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Post by everybodyknows »

superpope99 wrote: post #10
rajup wrote: post #6

How does one know one has a healthy gut? Is it possible to have the wrong gut micro biome but not have any gastrointestinal symptoms?

There are companies who will sequence your gut microbiome and give you actionable insights - full disclosure I work for one https://joinzoe.com/

> Created by the world's top scientists

Would inspire more confidence without hyperbolic claims. Or the auto-playing videos.

Re: Gut microbes could drive brain disorders

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Post by samstave »

qbrass wrote: post #50
samstave wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a suggestion for a test for you ; A Yogi master I once knew said to not eat onions (nightshades) as they interfere with your psychic aura or something. Since you seem to have a handle on your diet, may I request you do an cleanse of sorts and not eat onions for ~1 month and report if you feel any differences?

Onions and garlic are allium. Nightshades are tomatoes, potatoes, eggplant, and peppers.

I know, I should have been more clear ; they were saying both interfere with your mind...

Like I said, its just something I have been told - and it would be cool if somone could test it -- I eat so many damn onions a week, it would take me 6 months to detox from their sulfites.

Re: Gut microbes could drive brain disorders

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Post by prepend »

echelon wrote: post #58
prepend wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Kombucha has about 0.5% alcohol by volume [0] (a ripe banana has 0.4%) so it’s not really a reasonable risk per the studies you link to. I think this is a foolish interpretation and even as a non medical doctor it’s easy to look at the alcohol content and think critically. Kombucha has 1/10 the alcohol of a beer. So you would need to drink 40 12oz kombuchas in an hour to be intoxicated (moderate alcohol use). That’s…

Alcohol is a high energy, reactive species. Both it and its downstream metabolic products cause a host of DNA degradation: cross-linking, etc. Accumulation of this class of damage causes aging, cancer, dysfunction, and other cellular disease states. Every nutritive food we intake, including the gaseous and reactive molecular oxygen, is reactive and damaging. Some are worse than others, but we can control what we cons…

> We don't know what the lower bound of safe alcohol consumption is.

You’re right, but we have studies that show the levels that show harm. It’s possible that the alcohol in kombucha could harm us, but there’s no evidence. So it doesn’t affect our lives. The FDA doesn’t even consider it an alcoholic drink since it has less than 1.2%BAC. I don’t trust the government completely, but I think if there was any harm in the alcohol in kombucha (or bananas) we would know about it.

Again, you’d have to drink 4 gallons of it to get a buzz so even a baby’s liver can metabolize the alcohol in kombucha without causing concern for anyone.

Re: Gut microbes could drive brain disorders

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Post by LinuxBender »

11235813213455 wrote: post #21

I had schizophrenia and still have, but it's now not as prevalent after years of eating mostly vegetable, raw, and very ripe, fermented sometimes (like when peppers, onions, garlic for example are getting soft, people usually call them "rotten", but I prefer them like this actually, there can even be some bacteria formation on it, it doesn't matter). That with regular walking/running outdoor helped me so much. A typi…

I don't have the link handy but I recall a study that found doing a bone marrow transplant from a person that has schizophrenia to a person that does not will give the recipient schizophrenia. More interesting is that it works the other way around. A non-schozophrenic person donating bone marrow to a person that has it seems to rid them of it. Not that this information is super useful. Bone marrow transplants are risky and painful or so I've read.

I don't think this is the study I had found but it's probably related. [1]

[1] - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5613125/

Re: Gut microbes could drive brain disorders

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Post by happylion0801 »

throwaway482940 wrote: post #48
happylion0801 wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly have the same experience as you. After I got diagnosed with IBS, I started having pretty huge personality changes lasting to this day. No idea the path to recovery is

Yeah, it's pretty complicated. I have gotten blood, stool, and urine tests and all have come out fine. Food that previously would never cause any issues cause massive problems nowadays. Did your issues come from any dietary changes? How did they appear?

It happened over many months. I was a student at that time and had a poor diet. Mostly ate vegan food with lots of fruit.

I have had numerous tests done and everything came back as normal. Following fodmap diet currently but it’s very restrictive. Almost everything triggers my ibs symptoms

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