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Re: Brave launches private search ads

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Following the link from TFA (under "Search Premium") leads to https://account.brave.com/?intent=checkout&product=search

Thanks 3$/month looks like a decent price to me. I might give it a try although I am already running an ad blocker on my browser.

Is there any amount for which you would’ve instantly signed up and started paying or would even $1 a month still be something you “might give a try” (read: won’t do in a million years)?

Re: Brave launches private search ads

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I have been enjoying Kagi. Don’t mind the $10 per month to support something that caters to me rather than advertisers.

Did you create a new “bogus”email address when you signed up for their service to hide your identity? Or were you okay with giving them your real email address? I feel uncomfortable potentially having my searches linked to my real email and/or name.

Not really an answer to your question but I have my password manager integrated with my email host and can generate a new masked email with one click when creating new accounts. Not sure how it is as far as privacy (Bitwarden can't read my email, only create new masked emails - the option to allow read access is provided however) but as far as being able to disable problematic addresses on a whim without changing my main is pretty great.

Re: Brave launches private search ads

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That's not the problem. The problem is they sold their service as one thing, and then completely switch on the users down the line, instead of being honest upfront.

It was free, so they never sold it and nobody ever bought it. Companies often times need to pivot or introduce pricing to their products to survive. Would rather pay a modest fee to ensure that Brave continues as an alternative to the major browsers vs them running out of money and shutting down.

>It was free, so they never sold it and nobody ever bought it.

I mean, OP's not wrong. The phrase doesn't have to specifically mean an exchange of goods for money - can sell you on an idea, for instance. They "sold you" on the idea of using Brave by being very anti-ad. Now that you "bought it" and are hooked, they'd like some money.

Re: Brave launches private search ads

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Genuinely interested why do people keep using Brave instead of LibreWolf or ungoogled-chromium? EDIT: LibreWolf Browser: A custom version of Firefox, focused on privacy, security and freedom. https://librewolf.net/ ungoogled-chromium: A lightweight approach to removing Google web service dependency https://github.com/ungoogled-software/ungoogled-chromium

It just works.

It blocks almost all ads. It has a simple button to turn ad blocking off when I need to use websites that don't work with ad blockers. I don't need to fiddle with an extension.

I can use it on android without effort.

This is about brave search, which I have never used.

I don't use the brave homepage, so I never saw the homepage ads that folks complained about.

HN seems to hate Brave for some reason. But it has worked perfectly for years. I don't care if it's perfect privacy -- not sure I ever felt Brave promised that.

I have never heard of the browsers you mention. I tried to use Chromium for a while, but you have to find distributions that include basic features and it was a hassle. Not a big hassle, but made me stick with Brave.

Re: Brave launches private search ads

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If you haven't checked out Kagi, it has been a pleasure to use.

No way to test it by yourself - you can try the provided examples; it relies on others indexes and mentions in documentation "You can think of Kagi as a "search client"" . It requires an account in the first place and I can't see a word about pricing. Pass for me but maybe someone will be interested

Why does it matter where the indexes come from? As a user, I only care about the results.

Also, idk if I'm grandfathered in to an old price or anything, but my subscription is $10/mo.

Re: Brave launches private search ads

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Everything free, becomes ad-infested. Nothing is free, and it's really annoying seeing company after company make empty promises about privacy and "being different", then switching up when their investors start breathing down their necks. Just be honest from the start.

Craigslist has done a pretty good job resisting this.

Re: Brave launches private search ads

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HN could do a better title, it seems almost like it's clickbait. The original article title is "Brave debuts privacy-preserving ads in its search engine" - so the HN title kind of implies the opposite.

I think paying for content / services is the only way out of.. this. This thing we're in where Advertiser is King. This ecosystem that breeds dark patterns and skews all discourse towards the uninformed and adversarial.

Re: Brave launches private search ads

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Genuinely interested why do people keep using Brave instead of LibreWolf or ungoogled-chromium? EDIT: LibreWolf Browser: A custom version of Firefox, focused on privacy, security and freedom. https://librewolf.net/ ungoogled-chromium: A lightweight approach to removing Google web service dependency https://github.com/ungoogled-software/ungoogled-chromium

Or Firefox. Especially with Manifest v3 looming.

Re: Brave launches private search ads

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Brave (the browser) has a built-in ad-blocker, the existence of which could be taken as an implicit stance by its creators on how they feel about ads.

The browser also has a built-in ad-replacer which tells you even more about how they feel about ads.

No they don't. They don't replace ads, that's a lie, stop repeating it here please.

The Brave rewards are system OS text notifications that you can OPT IN to.

In no way do they replace banner ads on websites.

Re: Brave launches private search ads

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Do you work for free? A company has to make money to survive and pay its employees. Brave blocks third-party ads, not all ads.

Maybe it's simply just not commercially viable in any way shape or form to build an ethically responsible web browser and distribute it for free.
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