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Re: Tell HN: Facebook Messenger is testing in-call video ads

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But the ads they show will be based on your calls right? Because, how else...

Why would they have to be based on the calls? Facebook already knows a lot about the participants.

Has Facebook ever indicated they're capable of a "yep, we've got enough info on everyone, we're good" attitude?

Re: Tell HN: Facebook Messenger is testing in-call video ads

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because it happens on a mobile phone, which already has a built-in way to do it. "Hey mum, I decided to call you because that video ad bullshit is bullshit".

But that doesn't include video part of a videocall and in many cases (internationall calls) cost quite a lot still. The main push from sms/mms and calling to messaging services was the free price and additional features.

Facetime (and/or Duo) will work exactly the same. Both are free.

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Is there a reason Signal couldn't put ads in their video call product?

This is an interesting question. Doesn't Signal rather famously not track anything about who you're talking to? Reputational damage to Signal's brand aside, I expect it'd be hard to sell advertisers on a black hole.

You can have advertisements without tracking. See the original TV ads.

Re: Tell HN: Facebook Messenger is testing in-call video ads

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Assuming this is true, who comes up with ideas like this? If I was an advertiser do I really want to pay to have my ad (video nonetheless) shown to someone while they're actively trying to have a phone call? As a user, I'd just be pissed off at the advertiser plus im not looking at my screen when talking. I guess technically this increases ad "views" metrics. But advertisers are just wasting their money. I hope the f…

I wonder what would happen if there would be more "Karens", that would complain about this? Looking at the screenshot, let's say it's a cat food ad... if that "Karen" would call the cat food company and complain that their ad wasted her time with an old relative, or whatever, and in turn waste that companies time... and multiply that with 10.000 karens,... but it needs people to actually be proactive about stuff like…

I don’t understand why you would choose to say “karens” instead of “people”.

Re: Tell HN: Facebook Messenger is testing in-call video ads

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But that doesn't include video part of a videocall and in many cases (internationall calls) cost quite a lot still. The main push from sms/mms and calling to messaging services was the free price and additional features.

Facetime (and/or Duo) will work exactly the same. Both are free.

Yes, but you need an apple device for facetime, and how many people actually have Duo installed?

If your grandma has facebook and all her friends have facebook and all your friends have facebook... how many of them can you move over to Duo (r signal, telegram, matrix,...)?

Re: Tell HN: Facebook Messenger is testing in-call video ads

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post #64

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I wonder what would happen if there would be more "Karens", that would complain about this? Looking at the screenshot, let's say it's a cat food ad... if that "Karen" would call the cat food company and complain that their ad wasted her time with an old relative, or whatever, and in turn waste that companies time... and multiply that with 10.000 karens,... but it needs people to actually be proactive about stuff like…

I don’t understand why you would choose to say “karens” instead of “people”.

Because "Karens" are usually the ones who complain to managers about stuff like this. "People" just say "meh" or complain to a friend or two, and a "Karen" will go through a whole line of managers and complain to all of them.

Re: Tell HN: Facebook Messenger is testing in-call video ads

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Why would they have to be based on the calls? Facebook already knows a lot about the participants.

Has Facebook ever indicated they're capable of a "yep, we've got enough info on everyone, we're good" attitude?

My reply was to “how else…”

Re: Tell HN: Facebook Messenger is testing in-call video ads

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post #64

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I wonder what would happen if there would be more "Karens", that would complain about this? Looking at the screenshot, let's say it's a cat food ad... if that "Karen" would call the cat food company and complain that their ad wasted her time with an old relative, or whatever, and in turn waste that companies time... and multiply that with 10.000 karens,... but it needs people to actually be proactive about stuff like…

I don’t understand why you would choose to say “karens” instead of “people”.

Because lumping other people together under derogatory labels so that we can all more easily hate others is the "normal" way many humans interact with one another these days… :(

Re: Tell HN: Facebook Messenger is testing in-call video ads

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Facetime (and/or Duo) will work exactly the same. Both are free.

Yes, but you need an apple device for facetime, and how many people actually have Duo installed? If your grandma has facebook and all her friends have facebook and all your friends have facebook... how many of them can you move over to Duo (r signal, telegram, matrix,...)?

I used Duo as an example. I fail to see a real difference between a FB account and an iphone. Both serve as a way to connect to a network. Not everyone I know has a FB account, but most of those without a FB account have a cellphone. And frankly, around here (I live near Montreal), the majority have an iphone (and they already have Facetime).

I go where (my) people are and they are increasingly not on FB (and IG as well for that matter). Telegram, matrix and signal is not even mentionned.

I kind of get your point, but it can be applied to every network ever (needing a way to be part of the network).

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