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What will be the second order effects widespread AI?

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Re: What will be the second order effects widespread AI?

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Post by htlion »

Dracophoenix wrote: post #37
htlion wrote: post #27

AI will become the first publisher of contents on any platform that exists. Will it be texts, images, videos or any other interactions. No banning mechanisms will really help because any user will be able to copy-paste generated content. On top of that, the content will be generated specifically for you based on "what you like". I expect a backlash effect where people will feel like becoming cattle which is fed AI-ge…

> As a consequence, I expect people to come back to localilty, be it associations, sports clubs or neighborhood related, because that will be the only place where they will be able to experience humanity. I see the opposite. My expectation will be that computation will be cheap enough for the average people to create their own "local" AIs that, once tailored to their master's expectations and tastes, emulate human in…

I would even go further and say that the AI talking to an AI phenomenon will lead to AIs replacing APIs as we know them currently. We had to develop APIs to define how products can talk together. But in the near future, we may just need to fine-tune the latest AI model to handle that. We could even imagine training the model to speak HTTP or OpenREST.

Regarding society, I am worried about people consuming content generated by an AI just for them. We have seen how recommended content polarises political views, I can only see it becoming worse. Imagine Russian propaganda agencies powered by AI-generated content, they will just have to type: "A young black man mugging an old white lady" or whatever would be the most triggering.

> The few cases where humans interact will, like dialing 911, only be done on an emergency basis, .

To be honest, seeing the current trend of public services funding, I would rather put this service at the very top of the list of services that will be automated.

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Post by danielheath »

mudrockbestgirl wrote: post #41
danielheath wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It means that the current ad-based business models with open access no longer work No longer work for who? Viewers appear to be perfectly happy watching AI-generated content; advertisers are happy to have their brand appear next to it (so long as it's not objectionable material), google are happy to get advertising dollars and AI creators are happy to have a low-effort way to produce content. I think it'll suck the…

> Viewers appear to be perfectly happy watching AI-generated content That's true now because it hasn't proliferated yet, but I don't think it will be true for much longer. I think there will be tipping point. When AI-generated content competes with AI generated-content to game the ranking algorithms driven by AI-generated user accounts that write AI-generated comments you end up with something that's not optimized fo…

> It's not better, but potentially 100x cheaper. Not yet, but soon. That means a single developer in a 3rd world country can do the work of a content farm. Maybe you're right and that won't change anything, but I think it will.

That's fair. It's not meaningfully cheaper for text, because text is cheap and easy to vary automatically, but making video easier to produce will change the dynamic a little.

To see how that might pan out, I'd compare it to the world of text posts, which have been cheap and easy to automate for some time.

EG reddit has heaps of bots making pointless comments so that they can establish a pattern of "looking real" that lets them participate in (paid) upvote farms.

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Post by simonmesmith »

maxerickson wrote: post #16
simonmesmith wrote: post #10

An increasing percentage of people’s relationships will be with AI versus other humans. A conversation with GPT-3 can already be more enjoyable, given the right prompts, than conversations with many people. This will only get more powerful as AIs increasingly adapt themselves to conversational partners through the addition of longer-term memory (e.g. remembering your favorite foods, and so forth). It will be incredib…

If the genius AI gets to decide what to optimize for, what's going to keep it chatting with a dunce?

Maybe “decides” was a bad choice of words. More like, if its optimization goal turns out to be bad long-term, that could be problematic. For example, optimizing for time spent conversing could lead it to become unnecessarily dramatic to keep your attention. Optimizing for something like long-term conversation partner well-being is much harder, I think, so won’t be in early versions.

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Post by thoughtpeddler »

ergonaught wrote: post #30

At some point someone will successfully create "AI" that can discern human-appreciable "quality", at which point this will collide with GPT3/etc resulting in dynamic, live generation of content of all forms ("Computer, show me a Byzantine period class-transcending romance with a strong musical score, where the main characters are mutant wereweasel-loving wombats in the style of 20th century anime"), which eventually…

This reminds me of Rick & Morty's interdimensional cable [TV], a cable box granting access to television shows across every dimension. It might not be that far-fetched of a vision after all.

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Post by cauefcr »

incomingpain wrote: post #57
cauefcr wrote: post #56

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>If I were a communist, the path to communism is full robotics and automation. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Cybersyn They know, if only the US would not murder and coup every socialist country maybe it'd be solved by now.

Thanks, never heard of this project before. I agree with your sentiment of the USA needing to stop leaving their borders unless asked for help. Overall I do find one this projects greatest successes was breaking a strike kind of not so great. Perhaps things could have been different if said machine were constructed today. The thing with capitalism... it isn't a system with which was constructed. It derived organicall…

Just stop financing and starting wars, please.

Edit: also embargoes, please let people trade in peace.

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