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Zoho's annual revenues surpassed $1B in 2021

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Re: Zoho's annual revenues surpassed $1B in 2021

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last i checked (about half a year ago), they didn’t support IPv6. a tired meme, but it actually has economic impacts on my self-hoster friends. almost all ISPs block the SMTP port, and it’s way cheaper (free, even) to get an unblocked IPv6 address than an IPv4 one just because of address exhaustion. so if i used Zoho i’d kinda be forcing them to pay more if they want to be able to reach me :/

> almost all ISPs block the SMTP port, Is that a US thing? Or which country are you talking about? I’ve never had any port blocked in Germany.

Yes, definitely. One example:

https://www.xfinity.com/support/articles/list-of-blocked-por...

Re: Zoho's annual revenues surpassed $1B in 2021

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Yandex mail is better and it allows custom domain for free.

How is it better? as far as i know the other options are more feature rich

It offers IMAP and POP, which the Zoho free plan dropped some time back.

Their inbound spam filtering may also be better, given that they have more volume than Zoho to train on.

Re: Zoho's annual revenues surpassed $1B in 2021

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I moved to Zoho mail when Gmail threatened to kick us all off or pay money. Honestly, I couldn't be happier. The spam filtering works as well or better, the email app is intuitive, and I no longer have to keep switching Google accounts. Previously it seemed every Google property just picked an account at random.

I almost moved to Zoho for the same reason but then didn’t when big G changed their minds. Probably just delaying the inevitable but didn’t want to deal with the hassle of moving my whole family if I didn’t have to.

I did try out Zoho for months on one of my domains and was quite impressed. Zoho may be my go-to spot for future business services.

Re: Zoho's annual revenues surpassed $1B in 2021

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AFAIK they’re the only decent email provider that offers a free account that allows a custom domain. I use the $1/month mail lite plan. It’s nice to have an option that doesn’t cost as much as Microsoft and Google for people that want email on a custom domain, but don’t need all the cruft (drive, apps, etc).

Migadu is another awesome email solution. For my family and myself, we're on the "Micro" plan which works out to be 1.5 USD per month (but paid yearly). For smaller organizations and projects, we're on the "Mini" plan which is 9 USD per month.

Super cheap, very reliable and easy to setup. Never had any issues in the years I've been using it. I'm not associated with them, just a happy user that wishes them all the best.

https://www.migadu.com/pricing/

Re: Zoho's annual revenues surpassed $1B in 2021

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Happily using Zoho for 2-3 years now. Moved away from Google because... well you can't trust them with anything.

Haha, and you can trust the Indian government? No offense, but India any cop can walk into Zoho's offices and ask for whatever they want. It doesn't have to go through any agency. Given the corruption of that country, you're absolutely dreaming if you think your data is safer.

I'm not worried about the US or Indian government.

I am worried about Google blocking my account and me not being able to contact anyone to get access to it ever again.

Re: Zoho's annual revenues surpassed $1B in 2021

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It's the same in western countries

No, not really. Of course shit happens everywhere, but the scale is VASTLY different.

In Western countries:

  1. They use the law to do the same thing
  2. The media doesn't report on it

Re: Zoho's annual revenues surpassed $1B in 2021

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AFAIK they’re the only decent email provider that offers a free account that allows a custom domain. I use the $1/month mail lite plan. It’s nice to have an option that doesn’t cost as much as Microsoft and Google for people that want email on a custom domain, but don’t need all the cruft (drive, apps, etc).

Migadu is another awesome email solution. For my family and myself, we're on the "Micro" plan which works out to be 1.5 USD per month (but paid yearly). For smaller organizations and projects, we're on the "Mini" plan which is 9 USD per month. Super cheap, very reliable and easy to setup. Never had any issues in the years I've been using it. I'm not associated with them, just a happy user that wishes them all the bes…

They also have a page about their pros/cons: https://www.migadu.com/procon/

If nothing else, it's one of the more honest pieces of company writing out there, although some of the things could be dealbreakers for some people. I suggest that you check it out, it's written in a pretty straightforward and easy to understand language and lays everything bare.

Re: Zoho's annual revenues surpassed $1B in 2021

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> Sridhar Vembu of Zoho said that no other company has built a billion dollar product company in India. India has no other billion dollar product companies? Doesn’t Tata sell cars?

He means a tech product company. Most other billion dollar Indian tech companies are in the IT outsourcing business.

Why about the likes of Paytm or Flipkart?

Re: Zoho's annual revenues surpassed $1B in 2021

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Migadu is another awesome email solution. For my family and myself, we're on the "Micro" plan which works out to be 1.5 USD per month (but paid yearly). For smaller organizations and projects, we're on the "Mini" plan which is 9 USD per month. Super cheap, very reliable and easy to setup. Never had any issues in the years I've been using it. I'm not associated with them, just a happy user that wishes them all the bes…

They also have a page about their pros/cons: https://www.migadu.com/procon/ If nothing else, it's one of the more honest pieces of company writing out there, although some of the things could be dealbreakers for some people. I suggest that you check it out, it's written in a pretty straightforward and easy to understand language and lays everything bare.

their support is great too. same guy every time for me, and they remember you. just dont use them for business email, though they will accommodate it briefly if you're setting up a baby saas. they'll let you know theyre not a volume sender solution

Re: Zoho's annual revenues surpassed $1B in 2021

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I moved off Zoho when they dropped support for 'basic' email features like POP and IMAP access, which forces you to use their web or mobile app. I need unified inbox otherwise I will forget to check it.

I thought they grandfathered free accounts that were using those. But yeah, you have to pay for that stuff now. Personally I think it’s reasonable to have the free plan stripped down like that. It’s better than what Microsoft and Google did.

They did grandfather it in, so if you had it before, you have it now and there is no reason for someone to drop because of it - until Zoho changes it for the grandfathered accounts...
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