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Sweden’s incoming cabinet says new nuclear reactors will be built

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Post by ncmncm »

est31 wrote: post #45
ncmncm wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is dishonest to conflate emergency war measures as policy.

Yeah the plan was to buy methane gas from Russia instead. Still a non renewable source, but the gas would have caused less CO2 emissions and less pollution (gas causes less CO2 per kilowatt hour). Of course, the war and the bombings of NordStream have put an end to that.

The gas would have been used to fill in while renewables were being built out. Now coal is filling in while renewables are being built out even faster.

Without the investment to date in wind, coal dependency would have been massively greater.

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Post by boc »

Tagbert wrote: post #53
anigbrowl wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Look at the most recently constructed nuclear plants in the USA, figure out who allowed that to happen, and and conspicuously give them public credit for their decisions.

I think the point is that it has been decades since a new nuclear facility was built in the US so there really isn’t any around to promote.

From today's front page: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33205813

> Georgia Power announced tonight that fuel load into the Vogtle Unit 3 reactor core has begun at Plant Vogtle near Waynesboro, Ga. The fuel load process marks a historic and pivotal milestone toward startup and commercial operation of the first new nuclear units to be built in the U.S. in more than three decades.

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Post by nicoburns »

streblo wrote: post #36
lampshades wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is Germanys dystopian madness?

Something like 40% of the "renewable" energy being generated in the EU/Britain comes from burning wood, a lot of which was shipped from the US.

I don't think most reasonable people count biomass in with renewable (at least not large scale biomass). e.g. this website https://grid.iamkate.com/ has biomass in "other" along with nuclear and pumped hydro storage.

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Post by the-smug-one »

elihu wrote: post #51
anigbrowl wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Power generation should be publicly owned, private ownership of such critical resources inevitably creates moral hazard.

I think it's fine if governments pay for and operate power generation facilities, but at the same time I don't think private companies should be prohibited from building power generation facilities if they want to and they think they can do it better (provided they have to pay for externalities).

If anything's good about renewables is that they can be quite small scaled. I think it's cool that I can be an energy producer just with my roof, plus decentralized generation = better security.

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traceelement wrote: post #33
tpmx wrote: post #7

The new coalition government has pledged $40B (approximately the market cap of Twitter, heh) in loan guarantees for nuclear power construction. They have also pledged to create legal guarantees that future politicians will not be able to shut down functioning nuclear power reactors without suitable monetary compensation to the owners/operators of these reactors. In addition to this, they are commissioning an urgent s…

so they get compensated if they have to close it even so the government payed them to build it. this sound like a bad deal. Tax payers pay for the whole thing and the owner gets even more money if they have to close it for whatever reason. I don't think coal is the answer but germany didn't do enough for renewables during the last 10 years when we knew we would shut down the nuclear plants. So now evrybody uses bad m…

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Post by Gwypaas »

belorn wrote: post #25

A bit of context, the south area which this reactor is suggested to be built in has occasionally a 1000% electricity higher price from the northern regions. A big reason for this is that prices in the south is highly connected to markets that the south region is connected to, and those region are heavily importers of electricity creating a higher demand than there is available of cheap energy. For example, in order t…

New export cables will be ready the day these would come online, if the ever come online. Decoupling the SE4 and SE3 regions from the European energy market will never be a sustainable solution due to the possible arbitrage.
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