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Sweden’s incoming cabinet says new nuclear reactors will be built

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Re: Sweden’s incoming cabinet says new nuclear reactors will be built

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Post by anigbrowl »

lnsru wrote: post #6

Meanwhile in Germany: https://switzerlandtimes.ch/world/german-greens-remain-firm-... Welcome to The new dark ages in Germany. Leading politicians even do not have any higher education: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ricarda_Lang It’s scary how these people decide about topics they have no idea about.

Without endorsing her political positions, it's false to assert that Lang does 'not have any higher education'; your own link states 'After graduating from the Hölderlin-Gymnasium Nürtingen in 2012, Lang began studying law, first at the Heidelberg University and later at the Humboldt University of Berlin, eventually dropping out in 2019 without graduating.'

Relying on hyperbole like this undermines your own argument.

Re: Sweden’s incoming cabinet says new nuclear reactors will be built

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Post by tpmx »

cjblomqvist wrote: post #19
tpmx wrote: post #7

The new coalition government has pledged $40B (approximately the market cap of Twitter, heh) in loan guarantees for nuclear power construction. They have also pledged to create legal guarantees that future politicians will not be able to shut down functioning nuclear power reactors without suitable monetary compensation to the owners/operators of these reactors. In addition to this, they are commissioning an urgent s…

The previous government didn't stop the shutdown planned 40+ years ago (due to a national referendum), in part because the owners (Vattenfall) said it's not economically feasible to run them anymore without subsidies. It's complex.

The previous anti-nuclear social-democratic government together with the demonstrably insane "green" party installed a board in the state owned power company Vattenfall that after a while managed to sort of claim that it wasn't economically feasible to run the nuclear plants, with the new heavy taxes the social democrats had put in place on nuclear power production.

Yay?

Anyway, all of that insanity is thankfully history now.

Re: Sweden’s incoming cabinet says new nuclear reactors will be built

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Post by anigbrowl »

sergiotapia wrote: post #10

How do I vote for similar politicians in the USA? We need nuclear, and we need it yesterday.

Look at the most recently constructed nuclear plants in the USA, figure out who allowed that to happen, and and conspicuously give them public credit for their decisions.

Re: Sweden’s incoming cabinet says new nuclear reactors will be built

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Post by ncmncm »

Reactors will not be forced to shut down, in the future. Instead, they will be shut down as unable to produce power at a competitive price. Those that continue operating will depend even more on taxpayer subsidies than they do now.

The money that will be spent on these new reactors would buy a hell of a lot more wind power than these nukes could produce. But money for renewables would not go into the pockets of right-wing blueblood Swedes, which seems to be what matters to the incoming government.

When the nukes are mothballed early, every kWh they ever produced will, instantly, have actually cost much more than had been reckoned, as the fixed costs are amortized over fewer total.

Re: Sweden’s incoming cabinet says new nuclear reactors will be built

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Post by belorn »

A bit of context, the south area which this reactor is suggested to be built in has occasionally a 1000% electricity higher price from the northern regions. A big reason for this is that prices in the south is highly connected to markets that the south region is connected to, and those region are heavily importers of electricity creating a higher demand than there is available of cheap energy. For example, in order to address this there is a oil power plant operating basically 24/7 and does so very profitably even with high oil prices.

Re: Sweden’s incoming cabinet says new nuclear reactors will be built

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Post by ncmncm »

aPoCoMiLogin wrote: post #20
_Microft wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are the economics of nuclear power somehow more favorable in Sweden? That seems to be the major issue elsewhere from what I understand.

the mayor issue is the coal/gas lobby, just look how europe was lobbed to the point that natural gas is somewhat "green", but nuclear is bad to the point some countries don't even have one nuclear power plant.

No post body was provided.

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Post by cjblomqvist »

mkl95 wrote: post #14
lampshades wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is Germanys dystopian madness?

Relying on coal on for 30%+ of their electricity

According to Wikipedia (quoting a source from jan 2021) 24% of energy production comes from coal.

Re: Sweden’s incoming cabinet says new nuclear reactors will be built

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Post by cjblomqvist »

belorn wrote: post #25

A bit of context, the south area which this reactor is suggested to be built in has occasionally a 1000% electricity higher price from the northern regions. A big reason for this is that prices in the south is highly connected to markets that the south region is connected to, and those region are heavily importers of electricity creating a higher demand than there is available of cheap energy. For example, in order t…

From what I understand it's also (mainly?) because the southern areas pricing is very connected to Danish and German markets.
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