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Who controls the Internet? And should they? (2021)

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Re: Who controls the Internet? And should they? (2021)

#61
Okay so preaching to the choir about how things are bad while almost everyone in said choir will be working full time on making things worse. Honestly it is perplexing. We have a massive incentive problem and the cheapest place to look for a solution is in cyberspace, I don't want to write this essay several times; http://datalisp.is.

Re: Who controls the Internet? And should they? (2021)

#62
post #8

No mention of Cloudflare or Amazon, who arguably control more of the Internet than any of the entities listed in the article. Definitely more than any of the other corporations listed.

Technically cloud flare and aws provides tools for internet. I don’t know much about cloud flare but at least aws has a solid way to contact them in case of issues, except when Amazon thinks you are fraud, in which case you are banned forever

How are you banned forever? Can't you just buy another computer, get another connection to the internet, and get around the ban? Or do they ban by credit card? Or does that just mean the particular domain name is banned?

I've got around many a ban by just switching out my computer and getting a new internet connection.

Just curious.

Re: Who controls the Internet? And should they? (2021)

#63

Governments control everything.... they are slowly trying to block crypto too. The Internet in 20 years will suck even more (they don't really like free speech even if they claim they do). Edit: Since HN doesn't allow me to reply to the child comment because "I'm posting too quickly", here is the reply to CharlesW. Stealing is already illegal.... I like how they don't know how to use current laws and flood us with ne…

> Governments control everything.... they are slowly trying to block crypto too. I'm always amazed that anyone thought cryptocurrencies would somehow be the one form of currency that wouldn't be regulated. It's clear that crypto can't self-regulate, and continues to actively hurt lots of people. As of July, $1.9 billion in crypto has been "stolen" — up 60% from a year ago¹, in quotes because we know a good percentage…

>I'm always amazed that anyone thought cryptocurrencies would somehow be the one form of currency that wouldn't be regulated.

Right. Me too. If a government bans it, like USA or Australia or whatever, then that's that. Sure you can still use it, but you can also not stop for stop signs or you can sell meth or you can not pay income taxes. And maybe never get caught. But if you DO get caught....

"Don't do the crime if you can't do the time."

    - Detective Tony Baretta

Re: Who controls the Internet? And should they? (2021)

#64

"The Internet" is just other peoples' computers. Who controls yours?

"The Internet" is just everyone's computers (all those who are connected to the Internet at least, including yours and mine). It's a "network of networks". This is just a fact that most folks have either forgotten, or were never taught in the first place, and your ISP doesn't really want you to know or remember what the Internet really is, because then you'd know how badly you're being "shafted" by most of the ISPs o…

I understand the idea but what are you proposing we do?

Re: Who controls the Internet? And should they? (2021)

#65
post #17

I like Bert Hubert's writing because he always comes across as someone who's unbiased and genuinely cares. One thing I'm surprised he didn't mention is how large corporations operate their own private internets in basically the same way as countries like China and North Korea. Why wouldn't they? It's how the ARPAnet used to work. They only let scientists, engineers, and university students use the thing. I'm sure it…

This is interesting, do big companies ddos computer on their internet, too?

Re: Who controls the Internet? And should they? (2021)

#66

"The Internet" is just other peoples' computers. Who controls yours?

"The Internet" is just everyone's computers (all those who are connected to the Internet at least, including yours and mine). It's a "network of networks". This is just a fact that most folks have either forgotten, or were never taught in the first place, and your ISP doesn't really want you to know or remember what the Internet really is, because then you'd know how badly you're being "shafted" by most of the ISPs o…

I have a 1 megabit line for free, as per by Finnish law, so I certainly don't feel being shafted over here :)
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