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I love this line: "Now a museum of cold war is organized in the bunker where one can try on respirators, protective gear, hold different guns, etc." You know, the usual sort of museum experience. As interesting as this is, it's also tragic if you think about the vast resources humankind has spent on building terrible weapons and defenses against those weapons. Imagine how much farther we would be ahead as a society i…
Arguably the nuclear weapons have prevented continuation of WW2, where USSR and US would duke it out in the 50's and 60's. Just wanted to point out that world of geopolitics and strategy is way more nuanced than an average person believes.
Edit: Oh, I just noticed the bit in your comment about the 1950s/60s. So your contention is that the war might have reignited had there been no atomic bomb?
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Arguably the nuclear weapons have prevented continuation of WW2, where USSR and US would duke it out in the 50's and 60's. Just wanted to point out that world of geopolitics and strategy is way more nuanced than an average person believes.
> Arguably the nuclear weapons have prevented continuation of WW2 people in Korea, Afghanistan, Vietnan, etc, etc, would disagree.
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Arguably the nuclear weapons have prevented continuation of WW2, where USSR and US would duke it out in the 50's and 60's. Just wanted to point out that world of geopolitics and strategy is way more nuanced than an average person believes.
"nuclear weapons have prevented continuation of WW2" I would tend to agree with that. However, the levels of weaponry that were deployed were arguably far higher than was actually required to achieve effective mutual deterrence - by a huge factor. If you actually read the details of what would have happened if the Cuban Missile Crisis or Able Archer 83 had ended as shooting wars then prepare to have your blood run co…
There is a lot of this stuff under Moscow: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metro-2
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Still since there is access to the subway they could have moved stuff out through the subway system at night?
That's clever, but Moscow subway is open between 4:45am and 1:00am. That doesn't seem to give much time to move out a lot of dirt, not quickly.
Even back then? Even so, I bet the authorities could simply close the system down early, close off stations as needed.
Still, I suspect the builders were not worried about subway patrons seeing trainloads of excavated dirt.
They were worried about overhead satellites.
Non blogspam original link: http://moscow-walks.livejournal.com/918332.html It's not good when blogspam from englishrussia.com is on the HN frontpage for hours.
englishrussia.com has English text. Better than Russian text for most of us.
The original Russian is "Только одна из стен - полукруглая. Это неспроста, стена является фрагментом стенки круглой шахты уходящей далеко под землю", which directly translates to "one of the walls is curved, and for a good reason: it's part of the round shaft that descends deep underground". No mention of a shockwave.
Looking around the C&C rooms that had “X millions of casualties” on maps of blast epicentres really makes you think about what living during the Cold War must have felt like.
I would really like someone to take one of these facilities and turn it into a paintball play area/tournament. It would be a blast!