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.bit non-governmental domain name registrar, for the post-SOPA era

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Re: .bit non-governmental domain name registrar, for the post-SOPA era

#61

Couldn't this whole project be undermined by ICANN opening up .bit for registration with the current dns system?

Presumably, anyone friendly to the alternative DNS effort (ie. anyone running a .bit-capable DNS) would serve the p2p .bit domains over the ICANN domain that case. Although it would certainly be interesting.

Re: .bit non-governmental domain name registrar, for the post-SOPA era

#62

Couldn't this whole project be undermined by ICANN opening up .bit for registration with the current dns system?

ICANN's current stated policy is to not cause technical problems. For example, they will never open up .local. But if people start succeeding in popularizing whatever TLDs they want, maybe ICANN would change that policy just to screw with them.

Still .bit isn't going to work today without special configuration, so it's not at all clear that publishing it from the root servers would break anyone that was already successfully using it.

Re: .bit non-governmental domain name registrar, for the post-SOPA era

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Learn from history. Repeat after me: nobody will ever use an alternate root. The idea is much, much older than your project. Consider ipv6, and everyone is TRYING to adopt that. Repeat after me: nobody will use an alternate root. PS: Yes, I know what namecoin is, and the idea is stupid. It may not be an alternate traditional dns root, but the point is exactly the same.

One of the most important things I take away from this isn't that anyone has subverted DNS-based filtering with a popular, easy-to-use system, but rather that they could. In an argument against SOPA/ProtectIP/etc., it is very powerful not only to be able to say "DNS based filtering is easily subverted" but to be able to point to specific examples of it being subverted.

There's a lot of power, I think, to end an argument against SOPA with "...and, at the end of the day, it won't stop anyone. It won't work." Having functional, working systems only bolsters that argument, and thus helps, rather than hurts, the case against this kind of ludicrous legislation.

Re: .bit non-governmental domain name registrar, for the post-SOPA era

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the key lesson from history is that there are a number of factors that have to align for a paradigm shift to take place, but that from time to time they do happen. There are tons of examples from history of things that people thought would never change or technologies that were thought to be dead in the water that ended up completely displacing previous alternatives. Pretty much every technological communicat…

"mobile phones: it took years after the introduction of mobile phones" Mobile phones (and before that "car phones") solved a problem that benefited practically everyone. It was a matter of price dropping not a matter of benefit. There are people that care about this issue but not enough to ever hit a tipping point.

If a decentralized DNS plugin is necessary to easily access pirated content, then such a plugin will become as widespread as P2P clients, i.e. pretty widespread.

That's enough of a tipping point: everyone who wants to access stuff which makes a government angry knows to install the "uncensored Internet plugin", and the censorship measure becomes pointless.

It could be made easier if Google indexed .bit content, but even if they don't, another search engine will take up this niche, as astalavista.box.sk did more than a decade ago.

Also, they could sidestep the DNS censorship issue, by spidering the .bit sites, but indexing them by numeric IP rather than DNS names.

Re: .bit non-governmental domain name registrar, for the post-SOPA era

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post #64
post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"mobile phones: it took years after the introduction of mobile phones" Mobile phones (and before that "car phones") solved a problem that benefited practically everyone. It was a matter of price dropping not a matter of benefit. There are people that care about this issue but not enough to ever hit a tipping point.

If a decentralized DNS plugin is necessary to easily access pirated content, then such a plugin will become as widespread as P2P clients, i.e. pretty widespread. That's enough of a tipping point: everyone who wants to access stuff which makes a government angry knows to install the "uncensored Internet plugin", and the censorship measure becomes pointless. It could be made easier if Google indexed .bit content, but e…

> spidering the .bit sites, but indexing them by numeric IP rather than DNS names.

And as soon as the site operator moves to a different VPS host, all links get broken.

Re: .bit non-governmental domain name registrar, for the post-SOPA era

#66
For this to succeed, you need to reserve a lot of the legitimate .com addresses and have them mirror their .com counterparts. If you don't mimic .com as closely as possible for all entities that matter (real people and real organizations) then .bit is dead in the water.
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