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.bit non-governmental domain name registrar, for the post-SOPA era

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Re: .bit non-governmental domain name registrar, for the post-SOPA era

#33
post #24

Learn from history. Repeat after me: nobody will ever use an alternate root. The idea is much, much older than your project. Consider ipv6, and everyone is TRYING to adopt that. Repeat after me: nobody will use an alternate root. PS: Yes, I know what namecoin is, and the idea is stupid. It may not be an alternate traditional dns root, but the point is exactly the same.

Nobody has ever had a gun to their head in the same way as the SOPA act threatens to do. Other domain shenanigans may be annoying but nobody has ever prevented people from obtaining any domain before.

Re: .bit non-governmental domain name registrar, for the post-SOPA era

#34
post #28

what is the point of the .bit ? why would somebody want to use it ?

I believe this proposal started long before E-PARASITE, SOPA and similar (pending) legislation, but it has become relevant given the current SOPA situation. dot-bit (namecoins) has the potential of circumventing the DNS-censorship that SOPA might enable.

Also, its sister technology, bitcoin, has the potential of circumventing the payment-processor (ex. MasterCard) type of censorship. (See how wikileaks is being shutdown/censored)

Re: .bit non-governmental domain name registrar, for the post-SOPA era

#36
post #24

Learn from history. Repeat after me: nobody will ever use an alternate root. The idea is much, much older than your project. Consider ipv6, and everyone is TRYING to adopt that. Repeat after me: nobody will use an alternate root. PS: Yes, I know what namecoin is, and the idea is stupid. It may not be an alternate traditional dns root, but the point is exactly the same.

Others here have said that SOPA, or other forms of it won't go away even if the current bid to censor does not succeed. Lobbyists spend so much time and money pushing these bills down our collective throat. They do this under the impression that there are no other recourse for us, right? Explain BitTorrent. Explain BitCoin. Technologies like these may not always be successful, but they are created by people who are very passionate and intelligent. I'd argue that these visionaries are more mobilized than lobbyists, perhaps more passionate as a big cheque isn't being paid to them.

Lobbyists fight wars in self interest, hackers innovate for the people. In the end, evolution always wins.

Re: .bit non-governmental domain name registrar, for the post-SOPA era

#37
post #29
post #24

Learn from history. Repeat after me: nobody will ever use an alternate root. The idea is much, much older than your project. Consider ipv6, and everyone is TRYING to adopt that. Repeat after me: nobody will use an alternate root. PS: Yes, I know what namecoin is, and the idea is stupid. It may not be an alternate traditional dns root, but the point is exactly the same.

I think the key lesson from history is that there are a number of factors that have to align for a paradigm shift to take place, but that from time to time they do happen. There are tons of examples from history of things that people thought would never change or technologies that were thought to be dead in the water that ended up completely displacing previous alternatives. Pretty much every technological communicat…

"mobile phones: it took years after the introduction of mobile phones"

Mobile phones (and before that "car phones") solved a problem that benefited practically everyone. It was a matter of price dropping not a matter of benefit.

There are people that care about this issue but not enough to ever hit a tipping point.

Re: .bit non-governmental domain name registrar, for the post-SOPA era

#38
post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The question is how they would do that, technically, since the system is distributed. They could of course force you to give up your domain physically, by seizing your server. As a non-US citizen, my primary concern is relying on nameservers located in the US. My machines are located in Sweden. Of course, that's no guarantee that they would be safe from the FBI...

I think he's referring the the "dot-bit.org" domain, not the the "*.bit" domains. The .org is still registered normally and vulnerable to SOPA.

It could be taken down, I guess a game of whack a mole would ensue with mirrors popping up.

Re: .bit non-governmental domain name registrar, for the post-SOPA era

#39
post #24

Learn from history. Repeat after me: nobody will ever use an alternate root. The idea is much, much older than your project. Consider ipv6, and everyone is TRYING to adopt that. Repeat after me: nobody will use an alternate root. PS: Yes, I know what namecoin is, and the idea is stupid. It may not be an alternate traditional dns root, but the point is exactly the same.

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Re: .bit non-governmental domain name registrar, for the post-SOPA era

#40
post #24

Learn from history. Repeat after me: nobody will ever use an alternate root. The idea is much, much older than your project. Consider ipv6, and everyone is TRYING to adopt that. Repeat after me: nobody will use an alternate root. PS: Yes, I know what namecoin is, and the idea is stupid. It may not be an alternate traditional dns root, but the point is exactly the same.

"nobody will ever use an alternate root"

100% in agreement with this. Take spam which is a much larger significant problem. In order to eliminate spam you'd have to get everyone to completely change the email protocol habits usage etc. There is no way to patch over it. That hasn't and isn't going to happen. Major providers who control access aren't going to go along with any alternate root. And getting people to program in individually alternative dns servers or do anything "technical" in nature won't create enough critical mass. (Majority of domain names registered even with the availability of alternate tlds and cctlds are still .com)

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