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Re: FBI Child ID App

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Yes, AFAIK. It's still "voluntary" in that a child can refuse to do it if they're willing to raise enough stink and make a scene. Of course, one could paint their fingers with nail polish on that day, too...

Do the schools have to get the parent's permission somehow? This can't seem like a situation where the child has to make a commotion in order to not consent.

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Re: FBI Child ID App

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There's a television ad that stands out in my memory from when I was a kid (80s). The camera pans across patrons at a diner and the voiceover is about how a kidnapped child was recovered as the camera stops on a young girl (~8yo). The child is described, but the child the camera landed on has different features (hair dyed, cut, whatever). The explanation for how she was identified is that her fingerprints were on file. The message? Get your children fingerprinted!

In adulthood, I've often thought back to that ludicrous ad. No child's fingerprints are getting checked unless some foul play is already suspected. The likelihood that the child would fall into police custody and get checked is already slim; fingerprints aren't going to help until that happens. We don't have campaigns to fingerprint children as a proactive precaution today (of which I'm aware). Clearly, that wasn't a major breakthrough in reuniting kidnapped children with their parents that endured.

I'm very cynical, but I've always thought that was a campaign to gather biometrics from the population using fear as a motivator. I don't necessarily think this is that, but I can't help wondering the perverse incentives of the FBI as I'm reminded of the ad.

Re: FBI Child ID App

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"An important note: The FBI is not collecting or storing any photos or information that you enter in the app." Thanks for answering the question we all had, FBI.

You should have that question no matter the author of the app.

Yup. It's just that they went out of their way to answer it... Almost like they're worried people won't download the app if they didn't say it upfront.

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While i understand the skepticism, at least they are trying to streamline a process. a quick search reveals the startling statistic: Every 40 seconds, a child goes missing or is abducted in the United States. Approximately 840,000 children are reported missing each year. having access to rapid id/photo. Minutes are precious. I'm no expert but + for fbi, minus for the cynics. Just my 2 cents

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#66
You can't remember this info or write it down? The normal photos on your phone can't be sent to authorities?

Seems like an app to fix a nonexistent problem.

Re: FBI Child ID App

#67
Low grade corruption ...and here's why:

The FBI is understaffed, misdirected & underfunded for its real mission, which I would argue must be fighting public corruption, organized crime and counter-espionage. Any objective analysis would conclude the Bureau has been politicized and its resources have been directed at operations, investigations and training that does not fulfill its core mission.

The bad PR and mistrust the FBI has earned in recent years is the public product of what I'm describing, and the solution is not mobile apps of marginal utility made to make the Bureau look good. No, the solution is arrests of corrupt politicians, crime bosses & spies.

Its not just the FBI suffering from feel/look good boondoggles. The Air Force struggles with hypersonics but excels at new uniform design. The DOT is a leader in equity & diversity, but has failed to upgrade & regulate rail infrastructure & procedures that make derailments a regular occurrence.

Tax revenues have been their highest in decades, possibly longer. We deserve better.

Re: FBI Child ID App

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I don't think "prevent divorced couples from hating each other afterwards" is all that high on the QAnon priority list.

1) How many QAnon followers do you know? I know quite a few IRL.

2) Preventing divorce in the first place certainly is.

Re: FBI Child ID App

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There's a television ad that stands out in my memory from when I was a kid (80s). The camera pans across patrons at a diner and the voiceover is about how a kidnapped child was recovered as the camera stops on a young girl (~8yo). The child is described, but the child the camera landed on has different features (hair dyed, cut, whatever). The explanation for how she was identified is that her fingerprints were on fil…

If it was a ad, was a company involved? Sending biometrics to any company should always make someone think twice.

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I don't think "prevent divorced couples from hating each other afterwards" is all that high on the QAnon priority list.

1) How many QAnon followers do you know? I know quite a few IRL. 2) Preventing divorce in the first place certainly is.

> Preventing divorce in the first place certainly is.

Via which specific policies?

Simply bemoaning "urban" people's "broken families" doesn't count, and they might start with their favorite President's marriages.

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