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Re: FBI Child ID App

#51
2.4/5 on Apple's App store...

The UI needs a lot of work going by the screenshots, it doesn't look appealing and there's some obvious contrast issues

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#53

> Please read your mobile provider’s terms of service for information about the security of applications stored on your device. Is this weasel words? Apple already has some terms about being able to scan things locally before "potential upload", no?

Interesting... the FBI could ask or already have a backdoor provided by Apple.

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#54

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What? Did you ever find out what the fingerprints were used for? This is like taking a DNA sample from child when they're born nowadays, it seems harmless now, but we can already see companies using this kind of data maliciously.

In the US it was very common. My kids did it at school in the 90s. The point was that if your child goes missing, you have their fingerprints available so they can be used in investigations. In our case, the fingerprints were given to us to take home in case they were ever needed. At the time I didn't think to ask if the police kept a record for themselves, but I doubt it (just because local PD wasn't very organized)…

I went to school in the 2000's when I moved to Florida, and I don't remember this, maybe I was too old, I went to school in Puerto Rico prior to this.

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Initially I thought that it would be satire, then I recognized the domain. I have a weird feeling about this, but can't put a finger on it.

I have that weird feeling too. I'll try to put my finger on it in a non-sarcastic way.

1. This plays into the US's helicopter parenting culture of fear

2. Most kidnappings are by someone you already know. The "shopping at the mall" example is again, more fear mongering

https://journalistsresource.org/politics-and-government/chil...

> Parents were the perpetrators in more than 90 percent of kidnappings and abductions

3. The app is to store photos of your kid? Just use your camera gallery. I guarantee it's easier to use than the FBI's clunky app (inferred from their screenshot of a 10-year-old iOS version)

4. This is life, you can't solve everything with an app. Get your head out of your phone and open your eyes and look for your kid, they're probably one store down at the arcade

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That stat isn't as startling as it seems when you dig in; most of those are custody disputes. https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/most-kidnapped-childr... > But contrary to the dominant narrative, nearly all child abductions are perpetrated by family members. Stranger abductions — certainly alarming and tragic — actually occur with “lightning-strike rarity,” as a report in the journal Criminal Justice Studies put…

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I don't think "prevent divorced couples from hating each other afterwards" is all that high on the QAnon priority list.

Re: FBI Child ID App

#57

why does the inner cycnic in my think this is just to get some facial recognition data

That's what I was thinking -- what incentive does the FBI have to develop this?

Some department head got patted on the back, and a bunch of "analysts" burned 10 times what it should have taken to put this together. They're all getting salaries, good retirement benefits, and the satisfying feeling of having ended child exploitation (or at least telling people that).

Re: FBI Child ID App

#58

While i understand the skepticism, at least they are trying to streamline a process. a quick search reveals the startling statistic: Every 40 seconds, a child goes missing or is abducted in the United States. Approximately 840,000 children are reported missing each year. having access to rapid id/photo. Minutes are precious. I'm no expert but + for fbi, minus for the cynics. Just my 2 cents

That stat isn't as startling as it seems when you dig in; most of those are custody disputes. https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/most-kidnapped-childr... > But contrary to the dominant narrative, nearly all child abductions are perpetrated by family members. Stranger abductions — certainly alarming and tragic — actually occur with “lightning-strike rarity,” as a report in the journal Criminal Justice Studies put…

That stat is shared among parents so much. "840,000 missing a year" in a nation of 73 million children is interpreted as meaning in any given year you have a 1 in 87 chance of never seeing your child again at any given time.

My brother won't return his shopping cart to the shopping cart return area because, in those 30 seconds where his back is turned, someone is likely to take his children. One parent told me they take it one step further and they won't use passenger door to put their children in the car. Instead, they reach through the car from the driver's door. This way they don't have to walk around the car which would allow someone to take their child.

I've suggested just locking the children in the car but it seems like solving the wrong problem, really.

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What's the point in this app? Surely most mothers/fathers have pictures of their kids on their phone these days anyway

After the July 4 mass shooting a 2 year old was found wondering the scene unattended. He was safely returned to relatives. Sure I have pictures of my kids but am I alive to display them? https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-62047223

Who is going to unlock your phone to open the app when you are dead?

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I don't remember anything like that happening to me. I hope that's not common.

Very common. I suspect they slowed down post-2020. https://mobile.twitter.com/search?q=elementary%20(fingerprin...

I had no idea you could do querying for twitter like that...
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