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Re: TITO: Electric Argentine car

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Post by crooked-v »

james_pm wrote: post #3

Please give me more options like this in North America. I'd love something like this as the urban run-around to do quick errands that can't be done on foot or via transit. Something under $20K with enough range for a day of driving around. Even better, make it a shared vehicle and I'll just pay a membership to grab one from a lot around the corner for a few hours.

You can already get equivalent vehicles for around the same price: they're street legal golf carts. For example, this company sells a bunch of models: https://bintellielectricvehicles.com/category/street-legal-g...

Re: TITO: Electric Argentine car

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Post by crooked-v »

sjcoles wrote: post #53
james_pm wrote: post #3

Please give me more options like this in North America. I'd love something like this as the urban run-around to do quick errands that can't be done on foot or via transit. Something under $20K with enough range for a day of driving around. Even better, make it a shared vehicle and I'll just pay a membership to grab one from a lot around the corner for a few hours.

The Aptera is trying to be something like this.

The Aptera is substantially more upmarket in both price range and functionality.

Re: TITO: Electric Argentine car

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Post by jasonpeacock »

chroma wrote: post #22
james_pm wrote: post #3

Please give me more options like this in North America. I'd love something like this as the urban run-around to do quick errands that can't be done on foot or via transit. Something under $20K with enough range for a day of driving around. Even better, make it a shared vehicle and I'll just pay a membership to grab one from a lot around the corner for a few hours.

US laws prevent this car from being sold to the masses. The vehicle lacks airbags, anti-lock brakes, and electronic stability control. I also doubt it would pass crash tests. You might be able sell it as a motorcycle, but then passengers would be required to wear helmets and the driver would need a motorcycle endorsement on their license. Another option would be to sell it as an ATV, but states tend to restrict ATV u…

The Arcimoto is technically a motorcycle (most states classify anything https://www.arcimoto.com/

Re: TITO: Electric Argentine car

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Post by jasonpeacock »

james_pm wrote: post #3

Please give me more options like this in North America. I'd love something like this as the urban run-around to do quick errands that can't be done on foot or via transit. Something under $20K with enough range for a day of driving around. Even better, make it a shared vehicle and I'll just pay a membership to grab one from a lot around the corner for a few hours.

Here you go: https://www.arcimoto.com/

Re: TITO: Electric Argentine car

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Post by crooked-v »

justin66 wrote: post #25
chollida1 wrote: post #4

Neat to see. I think the future of these cars will be alot like ARM chips. One company, probably foxconn, will build reference designs and individual companies will license those designs and tweak them, mostly on the interior and have foxconn either manufacture the entire thing or build the chassis/battery pack and let another company build the body/interior. That way you can skip the Rnd Process and just require a f…

This is the present, not the future. A very high percentage of the parts of the Chevy Bolt were manufactured by LG Chem as part of an LG Chem reference design. (which worked out great )

Also see the Hyundai Ioniq 5, the Kia EV6, and the Genesis GV60 being basically the same car with different finishes and tweaking.

Re: TITO: Electric Argentine car

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Post by mynameisvlad »

adolfojp wrote: post #56
saddlerustle wrote: post #32

The TITO is virtually identical to products from the Chinese white label EV manufacturer "Today Sunshine"[1]. I bet this is a made in China, assembled in Argentina type deal at best. [1] https://www.todaysunshine.com/

I think you're right. I found the car for less than 6 thousand USD in Alibaba. Someone else on this thread claims that Argentina is selling it for 9.5 thousand USD. The title claims it's a 100% Argentine car. And yet the article states the following: >In 2018 Coradir’s CEO and his team decided to develop a battery bank platform, motor train and all the associated electronics so that any national car manufacturer coul…

I don't get what your point about the quote is. What is contradictory about the article and the claim?

Re: TITO: Electric Argentine car

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Post by sudosysgen »

walrus01 wrote: post #44
adolfojp wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It looks almost exactly like the Sunshine M1 but with a slightly different body kit.

this reminds me of the companies that have claimed to be the "manufacturer" of an electric motorcycle but are in fact importing a knocked down kit of electric motorcycle parts from an alibaba vendor in china.

I mean, if they make the frame themselves, I don't see the issue. It's like saying that the the first Buells weren't made by Buell because they had a Harley engine and Ohlins suspension.

Re: TITO: Electric Argentine car

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Post by crooked-v »

catawbasam wrote: post #28
chroma wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

US laws prevent this car from being sold to the masses. The vehicle lacks airbags, anti-lock brakes, and electronic stability control. I also doubt it would pass crash tests. You might be able sell it as a motorcycle, but then passengers would be required to wear helmets and the driver would need a motorcycle endorsement on their license. Another option would be to sell it as an ATV, but states tend to restrict ATV u…

It would meet a need in the US if restricted to low-speed roads, eg for older drivers. Maybe young drivers and low-income people too. At low speed you just don't need a lot of the fancy stuff.

Vehicles for that already exist in the US, like the Polaris GEM line: https://gem.polaris.com/en-us/street-legal-carts/

You just don't see them because nobody in the US is willing to restrict the usage of normal cars, even where it's obviously needed.

Re: TITO: Electric Argentine car

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Post by mynameisvlad »

crooked-v wrote: post #65
justin66 wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is the present, not the future. A very high percentage of the parts of the Chevy Bolt were manufactured by LG Chem as part of an LG Chem reference design. (which worked out great )

Also see the Hyundai Ioniq 5, the Kia EV6, and the Genesis GV60 being basically the same car with different finishes and tweaking.

Hyundai owns Genesis/Ioniq and part of Kia so it's not exactly the same.

I think the parent commenter was talking more about a company specializing in the EV platforms like Hyundai-Kia's EGMP or VW's MEB on which other companies would build cars.

Re: TITO: Electric Argentine car

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Post by crooked-v »

dymk wrote: post #48
catawbasam wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It would meet a need in the US if restricted to low-speed roads, eg for older drivers. Maybe young drivers and low-income people too. At low speed you just don't need a lot of the fancy stuff.

What are these low speed roads you're talking about? I'm not aware of any laws that allow a car to not have airbags on public roads based on speed. The closest thing I can think of is e.g. communities that have dedicated paved roads (which don't allow normal cars) for golf carts to putt around.

You seem to be unaware that low-speed vehicles (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low-speed_vehicle) exist as a legal category.
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