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Kharkiv Rubyist during the war: We are still here

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Re: Kharkiv Rubyist during the war: We are still here

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Post by keybored »

redwood wrote: post #2

It is amazing how this inspiring willingness to fight for the bare essentials that the West has for so long forgotten the need to be ready to be fight for has transformed the West and given it meaning again. Reminds me of Leo Strauss, a philosopher often cited by the neoconservatives and therefore of course dismissed by most of us but I think there's more nuance in his understanding of the world and this feels to me…

It would be horrible if this war would end up reinvigorating neoconservative thought or any kind of ideology that sees geopolitics in terms of good vs. evil or ideology1 vs. ideology2 (e.g. freedom vs. totalitarianism).

Re: Kharkiv Rubyist during the war: We are still here

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Post by koonsolo »

pantulis wrote: post #6

"(...) returned to Kharkiv to do something useful for the city. With no military experience and even no driving license, I do things on a very small scale" The sense of due duty to your community beyond your family and your own life. I am not really sure I would have the courage to do that. To Zverok: respect and good luck. To the rest: support Ukraine.

> I am not really sure I would have the courage to do that.

I don't know either. I think you can only tell when the time is there.

Coming from a western country, democracy, freedom and economic wealth is all taken for granted. Therefore, I'm not sure everybody would realise what we could lose.

When I look at my Ukrainian colleagues, they don't take that for granted. Their fight for those privileges is very recent, and was still ongoing. They definitely tasted it already.

So now this bastard Kremlin is trying to drag them back in the mud. I think their will to give their kids a prosperous life is higher than the pain they have to go through right now. They know the difference between the two.

They have all my respect, and definitely deserve the democracy and freedom they are fighting for right now.

Re: Kharkiv Rubyist during the war: We are still here

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Post by keybored »

baybal2 wrote: post #39
redwood wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's interesting to me to hear you say that. I would say that about Trump but not GWB in hindsight. At that time I was of the opinion you share and I remember feeling that GWB was essentially everything that was bad in the world… but in hindsight I realize how narrowly scoped my vision was and the spectrum is so much bigger and in fact I now believe it's important to be willing to find common ground with conservative…

GWB's great sin is he gave China, and Russia time. The 15 years USA spent running after imaginary boogeymen sowed the seeds of what we are dealing with today. There are many aspects to this folly, but most bad were: 1. Okaying what Russia, and China were doing 2. Wasting trillions on completely pointless war 3. Squandered overnight the enormous goodwill USA carried from successful 199X 4. Stalled the wheel of democra…

> Squandered overnight the enormous goodwill USA carried from successful 199X

What X? Bombing Serbia in 1999?

Re: Kharkiv Rubyist during the war: We are still here

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Post by keybored »

saiya-jin wrote: post #7

> There is a rumor that Putin had recently made a personal order to damage as much of Kharkiv as possible, to retaliate for breaking the hope of being “pro-Russian.” And however absurd it might sound, I am close to believing it because there seems to be no other point in doing what they do now. I have the same impression, just old bitter fart and shadow of a man he once was, entrenched in his untouchable position, th…

> An idea - even if they laugh on ICT in Haag, what if there would be international arrest warrant on all those sanctioned persons including him, no diplomatic immunity?

Maybe they would just implement their own “Hague Invasion Act”?[1]

[1]: Really the American Service-Members' Protection Act

Re: Kharkiv Rubyist during the war: We are still here

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Post by selectodude »

ghostwriter wrote: post #49
MagnumOpus wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Soviet Union had a permanent veto right by statute. Russia only has it because people felt that Russia was the obvious successor despite leaving the Soviet Union before it was dissolved. If enough important countries agree that Russia has no veto, then they can rewrite convention...

Which countries are the most important? What makes them important?

They have the largest militaries and nobody can really tell them what to do. Simple as that.

See: US invasion of Iraq, Russian invasion of Georgia and Ukraine.

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Post by hutzlibu »

ghostwriter wrote: post #49
MagnumOpus wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Soviet Union had a permanent veto right by statute. Russia only has it because people felt that Russia was the obvious successor despite leaving the Soviet Union before it was dissolved. If enough important countries agree that Russia has no veto, then they can rewrite convention...

Which countries are the most important? What makes them important?

Nukes and the power to use them worldwide.

Re: Kharkiv Rubyist during the war: We are still here

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Post by [deleted] »

pantulis wrote: post #6

"(...) returned to Kharkiv to do something useful for the city. With no military experience and even no driving license, I do things on a very small scale" The sense of due duty to your community beyond your family and your own life. I am not really sure I would have the courage to do that. To Zverok: respect and good luck. To the rest: support Ukraine.

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