Facebook and Instagram to temporarily allow calls for violence against Russians

Post by Melatonic » Thu, Mar 10, 2022, 10:15 PM UTC

rvz wrote: post #46

barbacoa wrote: post #21

It's going to be really awkward when this is all over and big tech has to pivot back to when nationalism, strong borders, private firearm ownership, and armed neo-nazi militias[0] were all bad things. [0] https://theintercept.com/2022/02/24/ukraine-facebook-azov-ba...

They are going to have a hard time trying to explain themselves as to why they are praising Nazis on their platform and why they did not 'de-platform hate' especially those ones. For companies like Facebook and Instagram, outrage sells; especially during a war. So why not squeeze out extra ads while they are at it?

Post by rosndo » Thu, Mar 10, 2022, 10:15 PM UTC

bjt2n3904 wrote: post #38

barbacoa wrote: post #21

It's going to be really awkward when this is all over and big tech has to pivot back to when nationalism, strong borders, private firearm ownership, and armed neo-nazi militias[0] were all bad things. [0] https://theintercept.com/2022/02/24/ukraine-facebook-azov-ba...

That's just it though. The position was never that it was BAD per-se. It's just... They wanted to control who was permitted to express nationalist sentiment, who were acceptable targets of "hate", and who was allowed to own guns.

Post by throw_m239339 » Thu, Mar 10, 2022, 10:16 PM UTC

LittleMoveBig wrote: post #25

Johnny555 wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which brakes? Russia's attack on Ukraine? Sure, let's stop or slow that down, but how?

I would imagine the parent is referring to some of the more "Freedom Fries"-esque excesses of Russophobia, like canceling Tchaikovsky from symphony programs, discarding Russian vodka, banning Russian cat breeds from competitions, etc

Post by beebmam » Thu, Mar 10, 2022, 10:16 PM UTC

gruez wrote: post #57

paxys wrote: post #13

It's ridiculous to assume that "I hate my neighbor and am going to kill him" and "there's a Russian army invading my city, we should set up an ambush" should be held to the same standard of speech. Of course, a larger question is whether Facebook should be the arbiter for this in the first place, but then the content is posted on their own private platform, and unlike a lot of people here I still think they should ha…

>It's ridiculous to assume that "I hate my neighbor and am going to kill him" and "there's a Russian army invading my city, we should set up an ambush" should be held to the same standard of speech Yeah, those examples are the easy ones. What about "we should genocide russians"? Where does that lie on your spectrum? Should facebook be allowing such speech?

Post by kipchak » Thu, Mar 10, 2022, 10:16 PM UTC

dade_ wrote: post #11

thinkingemote wrote: post #4

Hate is hate. Morality is absolute, not relative.

Calls for violence and hate are different things. I don't hate Russians, but I support violence against their soldiers invading Ukraine. Hating someone also doesn't mean they are worth the jail time from a violent act.