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Facebook and Instagram to temporarily allow calls for violence against Russians
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Re: Facebook and Instagram to temporarily allow calls for violence against Russians
#42Sometimes I think what would happen if China invades Taiwan? Would FB and IG still allow calls for violence against Chinese? I am pretty sure many people will change their tunes when it comes to China, similar to what happened regarding COVID.
China and USA.
None of these things — least of all sanctions — would be allowed against their citizens.
Let’s not forget that the country one lives in is the least likely to show its atrocities. So let’s just accept it — geopolitics ain’t fair.
Therefore I have always been bothered by appeals to some sort of sense of decency in people by various groups being attacked, that are themselves at the same time unapologetically biased and unmoved by the same appeals by other weaker groups. (And yes this most definitely includes Russians.)
Re: Facebook and Instagram to temporarily allow calls for violence against Russians
#43On a pedantic level, saying NATO should impose a no-fly-zone is a call to violence. Did these platform ever forbid calls for State-sanctioned force? I would have assumed that these parts of the user terms were referring to unsanctioned, or otherwise criminal violence.
"A no-fly zone" is one of the worst misnomers out there. In this case, it means that NATO - and specifically the USA - will start shooting Russian aircrafts. Sending NATO aircraft is not different from sending tanks. I understand why Ukrainians are asking for it but there is a reason NATO can't get involved.
>>A no-fly zone" is one of the worst misnomers out there.
Its not a misnomer at all - it is exactly what it says it is - might not be a good idea, but calling it a 'no-fly zone' is completely accurate.
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#44I can't believe this is real. Zuckerberg might not be the brightest guy but I can't believe he could be that stupid. I hope Meta will back down and apologize very soon.
Re: Facebook and Instagram to temporarily allow calls for violence against Russians
#45On a pedantic level, saying NATO should impose a no-fly-zone is a call to violence. Did these platform ever forbid calls for State-sanctioned force? I would have assumed that these parts of the user terms were referring to unsanctioned, or otherwise criminal violence.
"A no-fly zone" is one of the worst misnomers out there. In this case, it means that NATO - and specifically the USA - will start shooting Russian aircrafts. Sending NATO aircraft is not different from sending tanks. I understand why Ukrainians are asking for it but there is a reason NATO can't get involved.
It's not a misnomer.
And, asserting NATO air dominance in Ukraine is easy and guaranteed to succeed with de minimis cost (in lives and/or military equipment). Whereas creating land dominance with tanks is another matter.
A no-fly zone is an easy win for NATO and would make Ukrainian civilians safe from aerial bombardment.
Re: Facebook and Instagram to temporarily allow calls for violence against Russians
#46It's going to be really awkward when this is all over and big tech has to pivot back to when nationalism, strong borders, private firearm ownership, and armed neo-nazi militias[0] were all bad things. [0] https://theintercept.com/2022/02/24/ukraine-facebook-azov-ba...
They are going to have a hard time trying to explain themselves as to why they are praising Nazis on their platform and why they did not 'de-platform hate' especially those ones.
For companies like Facebook and Instagram, outrage sells; especially during a war. So why not squeeze out extra ads while they are at it?
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#47maybe it's time to pump the brakes a bit
Yes, maybe it's time for Russia to leave Ukraine alone. That's the simplest solution.
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#48I 100% support Ukraine but this is building a muscular reflex pattern than can't be unlearned. We shouldn't have private tech enforcing state wishes. They are no longer un-biased parties.
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#49Close your facebook (and whatsapp, insta, etc) account and move on and encourage others to do the same.
I'd close it again if I could, but that would required creating another one first.
but seriously, closing your Facebook account and moving to instagram really doesn't send much of a message, does it? It's the same evil company.
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#50No matter how much you (as well as I) hate the fact that private platforms can impose or change their moderation rules unfairly on who ever they want, whenever they want and no matter how hypocritical they are, they are still private platforms and can do whatever they want even if it is against their own terms of service. Ultimately, they don't care and they are on no-one's side. Thus, they will never change. Outrage…
If they were truly private platforms they would be liable for what's said on them. You could sue them for hate speech and libel, etc.