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what does traveling in a straight line have to do with acceleration?
Straight line with continuous speed has no acceleration. They were saying it violently swerved around inducing acceleration/g-forces from turning.
Here's my most recent thought. Pilots spent years up there and the only thing they see are other planes. If they see something it must be a plane, from the size they can estimate the distance. But when they suddenly see smaller drone, their pilot-brain thinks it's a plane, but because it is much smaller than a plane, they think it must be far away. And when it flys same speed as plane, in "projected" large distance t…
1. (US) military pilots are trained to recognize the shortcomings of their sensory perceptions in this exact regard. 2. This doesn't explain the many, separate close-up encounters, such at the Nimitz and east coast/Atlantic Ocean encounters. PS: FWIW, I don't think these things are extra-terrestrial.
Here's my most recent thought. Pilots spent years up there and the only thing they see are other planes. If they see something it must be a plane, from the size they can estimate the distance. But when they suddenly see smaller drone, their pilot-brain thinks it's a plane, but because it is much smaller than a plane, they think it must be far away. And when it flys same speed as plane, in "projected" large distance t…
It was news to me that in the Nimitz event ballistic missile defense radar was actually observing the UAVs in low Earth orbit days before the fighter jet encounter. Truly wild stuff. If I had to hazard a guess, these are unmanned (unaliened?) probes, the same ones that have been here for centuries or more. They may not even know or care what humans are or what we're up to. Maybe they keep dipping to the water to take…
There are a lot of radars tracking objects in low earth orbit. If there were objects the Nimitz radar could see in orbit "for centuries or more" we'd have seen them a very long time ago. Radars are probabilistic systems, and with military radars these days the processing is quite complex and sophisticated. There's a going on to reject clutter. This sometimes goes haywire for perfectly banal natural reasons. Assuming…
I'm struggling to make sense of your argument here. People have reported seeing them for a very long time. The core elements of the "ufo phenomenon" appear to be pretty well-conserved across space and time.
>Radars are probabilistic systems, and with military radars these days the processing is quite complex and sophisticated. There's a going on to reject clutter. This sometimes goes haywire for perfectly banal natural reasons.
you are ignoring the fact that the pilots saw these objects with their eyes. Unless the radar systems on multiple planes and the eye-brain systems of multiple humans all failed exactly at the same time and in the same way?
It was news to me that in the Nimitz event ballistic missile defense radar was actually observing the UAVs in low Earth orbit days before the fighter jet encounter. Truly wild stuff. If I had to hazard a guess, these are unmanned (unaliened?) probes, the same ones that have been here for centuries or more. They may not even know or care what humans are or what we're up to. Maybe they keep dipping to the water to take…
1 - The crafts are non-human technology, the US knows what they are(non-human technology) and at first ridiculed anyone who confirmed a sighting, and now is putting out phony patents to save face.
2 - The US or some other earthly government created these objects and is running dis-info by stating they are unknown, and now talking about these patents to scare other countries about this technology.
3 - The US has no idea what they are and hence why they shelved project blue book as the idea of a craft that can penetrate the US's defenses at any time is uncomfortable, they are now playing statecraft games by these patents and now getting interested in UAPs.
1 - https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/28729/docs-show-navy-g...
One beautiful sunny summer day, I was sitting out on my deck relaxing and I saw a UFO near Mt. Ranier, a bit south of the mountain. It was very shiny and seemed to be moving at hyper-sonic speeds between a location close to the mountain and then suddenly a location a bit east of Renton. I was thinking, Wow, that is bizarre !. It was silver and oblong shaped and seemed to be appearing in one location and then appearing in another location and then waving back and forth. Then appearing and disappearing. So completely strange.
Of course, I immediately ran and got my binoculars, to get a closer look, but it was still a little fuzzy and hard to follow. So I switched to my spotter scope I use for target practice. Still, not definitive.
I went to my Bird Watching scope which is the highest power I had. It was difficult to track but eventually, I detected that, the object turned out to be some guy in a paraglider with a very shiny parachute. He was sort of swinging back and forth. There was some sort of weird atmospheric anomaly that seemed to cause the image to move from one place to the other but, it was really one thing.
Very interesting, had I not had access to a lot good optics and so forth, I could see someone getting weirded out by it. I saw later that other people had reported it as a UFO.
I am not saying that all sightings are bunk. Not at all. I am just saying, that I can see how some things can be mis-interpreted. Very easily. It's very possible some sightings are ET, I do not know, this is just my one experience.
It was news to me that in the Nimitz event ballistic missile defense radar was actually observing the UAVs in low Earth orbit days before the fighter jet encounter. Truly wild stuff. If I had to hazard a guess, these are unmanned (unaliened?) probes, the same ones that have been here for centuries or more. They may not even know or care what humans are or what we're up to. Maybe they keep dipping to the water to take…
I had not caught that bit before, either: > The main incident occurred on 14 November 2004, but several days earlier, radar operators on the USS Princeton were detecting UAPs appearing on radar at about 80,000+ feet altitude to the north of CSG11 in the vicinity of Santa Catalina and San Clemente Islands. Senior Chief Kevin Day informed us that the Ballistic Missile Defense (BMD) radar systems had detected the UAPs i…
https://www.cnic.navy.mil/regions/cnrsw/installations/navbas...
One of the primary military function of San Clemente Island has been to support research and development of many of the Navy's weapon systems
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This integrated set of ranges and operational areas covers approximately 2,620 square nautical miles (nm). The SCIRC consists of more than six dozen ranges and operational areas. The extent of these areas range from the ocean floor to an altitude of 80,000 feet.
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The radar and FLIR aren't as easy to 'trick' though.
They could be, with RF and laser equipment running reasonably-advanced software to spoof such sensors . There are a lot of gotchas to work out here, but it's my best guess, aside from "craft that defy physics." Source: worked on such military equipment, back in the early 90s.
Based on Occum's Razor, this doesn't seem likely to me.
However, to go along with the premise, this could be some interesting method of disrupting radar systems prior to attacks. In the design phase, so one was borded and made it do test patterns rather than full blinding. ??? Then, it just became a thing for those in the know to just mess with people as drills for testing your thing. Each new trainee learns to program it using the manuals until some 10x person gets a go and now we have an easy way to keep the UFO thing going. (doesn't explain the visual observatiosn though)
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They could be, with RF and laser equipment running reasonably-advanced software to spoof such sensors . There are a lot of gotchas to work out here, but it's my best guess, aside from "craft that defy physics." Source: worked on such military equipment, back in the early 90s.
> They could be, with RF and laser equipment running reasonably-advanced software to spoof such sensors. How would such RF and laser equipment spoof sensors that are thousands of feet in the air and moving at hundreds of miles per hour and moving in unpredictable ways? Radar is off the table--that would presumably have been detected, right? How would our spoofer spoof multiple sensors, separated by significant distan…
As Carl Sagan (among others) pointed out, "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence."
Or, more recently, what Matt O'Dowd calls the "Space Time[0] Mantra": "It's never aliens. Until it is."
I'm going to wait for that "Klaatu barada nikto[1]" moment before I buy into any claims of intelligent aliens visiting our little world.