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Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

#61

What do you mean by unable to pay? Would it not just be more expensive? Assuming the banks will convert your transactions when you pay. The Russian banks seem to have stockpiled currency, so I assume they will be able to keep the loop going.

Most (all?) Russian banks got booted from the SWIFT interchange system. That takes away the technical mechanism for doing transfers.

Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

#62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's interesting. I'm not sure where the technicality resides. If that situation is the case, I assume that it would be quite catastrophic for anyone using non-Russian services for IT.

Cutting off SWIFT I believe is a primary way of making it impossible to pay...

SWIFT is a messaging network and could be replaced by email.

They’ve been banned from the US/UK central banks and can’t settle transactions in those currencies at all. Maybe more by now.

Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would add the US did not unilaterally start the war in Iraq or Yugoslavia and definitely not the one with Japan. In the case of Japan, the US rebuilt an enemy after they attacked the US without a declaration of war and made them an ally and trading partner.

This highlights one of my growing ethical dillemas. I am a US citizen, and sometimes I am really ashamed of my country. We have done some really bad stuff. We’ve done a whole lot of shady stuff that is complicated to pass simple judgement on. But the US has done good stuff as well. They loan money, send aid, rebuild, provide. Some times the motives are duplicitous in these acts of good. But the bottom line is, when I…

> When it comes to USSR/Russia, I am not aware of the good acts. It’s not just that thy do bad things, it’s that I never hear of any of the good things they do in the world at large.

The red army took Berlin and ended the Nazis. It was an Allied victory but it came about because Russia put their full might into stopping Hitler.

This is not insignificant if you don't like what the third reich was up to.

It came at a tremendous cost to mother Russia, 20M of her sons died in the process.

I encourage you to visit the war memorial in Treptower Park. It is built out of the red marble stripped from Hitler's Reichschancellery, and it is a hauntingly powerful place.

Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

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post #11

As a side question, how similar is Putin's war in Ukraine to the numerous wars started by U.S. (say, in the middle East, Yugoslavia)? Are these fair to compare? I'm trying to understand the scale of Putin's decision, not to justify it or engage in whataboutism.

Well, intervention in Yugoslavia wasn’t a war started by the US. The Kuwait war was after an invasion by Iraq and at the invitation of the government there, and the US were restrained enough to halt at the Iraq border. The Syrian war was not started by the US, and it has played a minor part there. In fact, it is Russia that has indiscriminately bombed Syrian cities and targeted civilians and hospitals there. Afghanis…

>By far the biggest difference here, I think, is that by being a European war and through the potential for further conflict and nuclear conflict, this war has far larger international ramifications and strategic risks attached to it. To see European cities bombed is to be reminded of what has happened in the past and that it can happen again. That is why it is receiving so much attention.

Bombing of Serbia was a bombing of European cities, specifically bombing of civilian population centers far from the front to terrorize the population. Also without UN approval.

Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

#65
post #11

As a side question, how similar is Putin's war in Ukraine to the numerous wars started by U.S. (say, in the middle East, Yugoslavia)? Are these fair to compare? I'm trying to understand the scale of Putin's decision, not to justify it or engage in whataboutism.

Well, intervention in Yugoslavia wasn’t a war started by the US. The Kuwait war was after an invasion by Iraq and at the invitation of the government there, and the US were restrained enough to halt at the Iraq border. The Syrian war was not started by the US, and it has played a minor part there. In fact, it is Russia that has indiscriminately bombed Syrian cities and targeted civilians and hospitals there. Afghanis…

Iraq is somewhat similar except that Russia is the 2000s US, they didn’t bother making an excuse first, they didn’t form a coalition, and even less of Ukraine wants them to be there.

Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

#66
post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would add the US did not unilaterally start the war in Iraq or Yugoslavia and definitely not the one with Japan. In the case of Japan, the US rebuilt an enemy after they attacked the US without a declaration of war and made them an ally and trading partner.

This highlights one of my growing ethical dillemas. I am a US citizen, and sometimes I am really ashamed of my country. We have done some really bad stuff. We’ve done a whole lot of shady stuff that is complicated to pass simple judgement on. But the US has done good stuff as well. They loan money, send aid, rebuild, provide. Some times the motives are duplicitous in these acts of good. But the bottom line is, when I…

> I am a US citizen, and sometimes I am really ashamed of my country

Is there any country in history with comparable economic and military power to the US that has a "cleaner" record in terms of "bad stuff"? I'm specifying comparable power to specifically exclude tiny nations that never had the capacity to do "bad stuff."

Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

#67
Not all services have local replacements, but I strongly recommend storing your backups in the ru segment. In the case of shutting down cloud providers like Google nothing would work fine for several days, and your unstable service – not a main problem for all others.

#НетВойне #РоссияНеМолчи

Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

#68
The reverse of this comment probably applies too. Expect Russia to retaliate if this continues to escalate. Banking computers might be hit and the internet might go down. You probably need to have some cash on hand to be able to at least buy food in such a scenario.

Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

#69
post #11

As a side question, how similar is Putin's war in Ukraine to the numerous wars started by U.S. (say, in the middle East, Yugoslavia)? Are these fair to compare? I'm trying to understand the scale of Putin's decision, not to justify it or engage in whataboutism.

> I'm trying to understand the scale of Putin's decision Drastic. Catastrophic. Suicidal. World-changing. The country (Russia) in its current form has just ceased to exist. The entire parasitic elite class just got cut off from everything they stole during all these years. The entire human potential of Russia just got nullified for at lest 20 years. The push towards green energy (and I hope nuclear fusion) just got a…

> The country (Russia) in its current form has just ceased to exist.

I’m not too sure about this. The main problem is there isn’t a new form to replace it with, or a new government to replace Putin with that would act any different - for instance, not constantly assassinating people in Europe with chemical weapons.

It does seem like a good time to leave, although an even better time would’ve been before the currency collapsed.

Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

#70
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> This country should pay for every war crime they committed. There are no innocence in war. Silent complacency what brought it on. Russian IT giants did nothing to prevent the bloodshed. On the contrary, they actively propagate lies generated by their government.

Is this the propaganda you're talking about? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azov_Battalion

Or maybe the Russians have hacked the official Twitter account of the National Guard of Ukraine to post this vile racist shit https://twitter.com/ng_ukraine/status/1497924614865002497

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