I know this article isn't great, but is there anyone on HN who lives in Germany who could explain why there's such a scepticism of Nuclear power there? I'm from the UK and we have largely transitioned away from Nuclear for one clear reason - there was no political appetite to spend a tonne of money on an expensive form of energy that wasn't likely to pay off in the current parliamentary term. The german response to N…
Who stands to profit the most from decommissioning them all? I mean besides Schröder and Russia.
Germany mulls extending nuclear plants' life-span
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#62Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah, nothing to do with russian gas, dirty money and lobbyists.... https://www.dw.com/en/germanys-former-chancellor-gerhard-sch... https://www.politico.eu/article/outrage-germany-ex-chancello...
I retold the history, not the motivations. Also, Schröder and Merkel are from different parties, so it's hard to see how Schröders corruption influenced Merkel.
In our globalized capitalist world nothing matters more than the economy, money and inertia takes care of everything, no matter which party you're from. You need a literal war at your door to slap some sense in them.
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#63I know this article isn't great, but is there anyone on HN who lives in Germany who could explain why there's such a scepticism of Nuclear power there? I'm from the UK and we have largely transitioned away from Nuclear for one clear reason - there was no political appetite to spend a tonne of money on an expensive form of energy that wasn't likely to pay off in the current parliamentary term. The german response to N…
It’s a knee jerk reaction to Fukushima.
https://www.cleanenergywire.org/factsheets/history-behind-ge...
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#64I know this article isn't great, but is there anyone on HN who lives in Germany who could explain why there's such a scepticism of Nuclear power there? I'm from the UK and we have largely transitioned away from Nuclear for one clear reason - there was no political appetite to spend a tonne of money on an expensive form of energy that wasn't likely to pay off in the current parliamentary term. The german response to N…
I’m not against nuclear power but can anyone explain why a similar sized investment in solar+wind+geothermal+battery storage would not work?
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#65Here's better, more numerate coverage: https://twitter.com/energybants/status/1498005296299622408 Also the whole thread covers other nuclear topics the press is a bit lost on. Remember, the number of nuclear engineers at reuters is 0.
Keep in mind that this persons appears to be a pro nuclear industry lobbyist. So the number of objective nuclear opinions on this twitter account is 0.
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#66I know this article isn't great, but is there anyone on HN who lives in Germany who could explain why there's such a scepticism of Nuclear power there? I'm from the UK and we have largely transitioned away from Nuclear for one clear reason - there was no political appetite to spend a tonne of money on an expensive form of energy that wasn't likely to pay off in the current parliamentary term. The german response to N…
> "I'm from the UK and we have largely transitioned away from Nuclear" While the UK's nuclear power capacity is well down on its 1990s peak, it's hardly correct to say the UK has "largely" transitioned away from nuclear. A major new nuclear plant (Hinkley Point C) is under construction, and two more (Sizewell C and Bradwell B) seem to still be moving ahead. If all three are completed, they would represent 8.6 GW of n…
Not to mention recent funding for small modular reactors (SMR) https://www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-backs-new-small-nuclea...
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#67I don't get it. A nuclear accident halfway across the world and Germany decides to shut down. A war halfway across the continent and it decides to keep on? Both threats (nuclear accident and Putin's madness) have always existed. What changed? Did they suddenly discover Putin is not trustworthy to depend on for half of your energy supply?
Half way across the continent? Lwiw is closer to Berlin than Paris. But its not about the distance but the impact on the energy supply as the trade with Russia is falling apart. Yet, I don't think there will be a major swing to nuclear. First, it is very expensive and secondly, nuclear doesn't work well in combination with renewables, as nuclear power plants are very slow to change power output. Thats the big bonus of gas. The most reasonable solution is, to source gas elsewhere and push for renewables.
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#68I know this article isn't great, but is there anyone on HN who lives in Germany who could explain why there's such a scepticism of Nuclear power there? I'm from the UK and we have largely transitioned away from Nuclear for one clear reason - there was no political appetite to spend a tonne of money on an expensive form of energy that wasn't likely to pay off in the current parliamentary term. The german response to N…
VisualPolitik EN has a take on it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYagGAgHfQ0 (12 mins)
And there is this Wikipedia article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-nuclear_movement_in_Germa...
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#69I know this article isn't great, but is there anyone on HN who lives in Germany who could explain why there's such a scepticism of Nuclear power there? I'm from the UK and we have largely transitioned away from Nuclear for one clear reason - there was no political appetite to spend a tonne of money on an expensive form of energy that wasn't likely to pay off in the current parliamentary term. The german response to N…
It’s a knee jerk reaction to Fukushima. https://www.cleanenergywire.org/factsheets/history-behind-ge...
It's not. These plans have been in motion since way before that, as your link probably confirms. Merkel was going to delay the closing, but when Fukushima came along she couldn't do that anymore.
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#70Earlier quoted context omitted.
German here, but I'll be a bit lazy and refer to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_power_in_Germany . I quickly skimmed over it and I think it touches the history well. From my personal perspective, I can definitely relate being nuclear skeptic due to Chernobyl (I was 7 years old at the time) and basically constant demonstrations/problems with the end storage facility subject - for as long as I remember. Also, at…
> Also, at least in my memory around ~2000 it became clear that nuclear was not economically viable vs going green That would be surprising. I would have said that renewables (without comparing massively subsidised and unproven renewables costs with unsubsidised and well understood practical nuclear costs) would only be relatively recently even in the same ballpark as nuclear. And even then, only when the sun's shini…
"Nuclear power in Europe benefits mainly from massive tax breaks, subsidies and other financial assistance for construction, maintenance and disposal (in Germany a total of about 187 billion euros over the past forty years)"