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Re: Google terminates Play Store account of Simple Keyboard developer

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If developer was a Business, they might try asking for mediation: "If you are a developer based in the EU and you offer goods or services to consumers located in the EU, you may also apply to resolve a dispute with Google Play through mediation." [ https://support.google.com/legal/answer/9792937 ]. No such luck for open-source developers.

What part of that do Open Source developers not meet?

Many OSS developers do not have a registered business. (I sure don't.)

Re: Google terminates Play Store account of Simple Keyboard developer

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I don't know of a keyboard that replicates Swype's exact behavior (swiping from the Swype button to C or V). For rapid text manipulation, AnySoftKeyboard lets you swipe up from the spacebar to show a utility menu with buttons for cut, copy, paste, undo, redo, text selection mode, home, end, and the 4 arrow keys. Copying and pasting in AnySoftKeyboard is pretty quick. It's also free and open source. https://anysoftkey…

I like it -- it's less taps than Swype-A, Swype-C because you usually select all and then copy right away. Thanks!

https://github.com/Julow/Unexpected-Keyboard

Re: Google terminates Play Store account of Simple Keyboard developer

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When I read the privacy policy for the Samsung keyboard pre-installed on my phone and started following the links I was shocked that it was a literal keylogger sending every key press to 3rd parties who said they would use it read every word and phrase I typed to try to guess what my interests were, who I was communicating with, and what my level of cognitive ability/education was! I'd had no idea. Replaced my keyboa…

If a company sold me a device with a keylogger installed on I would never buy anything from that company again. I would also not let that device on my network, ever.

I would try to raise a stink with local authorities because that is almost definitely illegal.

Re: Google terminates Play Store account of Simple Keyboard developer

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Another malicious developer most likely used his source code and republished/spammed the Google play store with the said reskin. The original developer, is now associated with the malicious developer and has his account terminated. It's not the first time an open source project gets removed from the Google store for "prior violations of the developer program policies".

When I read the privacy policy for the Samsung keyboard pre-installed on my phone and started following the links I was shocked that it was a literal keylogger sending every key press to 3rd parties who said they would use it read every word and phrase I typed to try to guess what my interests were, who I was communicating with, and what my level of cognitive ability/education was! I'd had no idea. Replaced my keyboa…

what did you replace the keyboard with?

Re: Google terminates Play Store account of Simple Keyboard developer

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When I read the privacy policy for the Samsung keyboard pre-installed on my phone and started following the links I was shocked that it was a literal keylogger sending every key press to 3rd parties who said they would use it read every word and phrase I typed to try to guess what my interests were, who I was communicating with, and what my level of cognitive ability/education was! I'd had no idea. Replaced my keyboa…

what did you replace the keyboard with?

AnySoftKeyboard, it's on f-droid

It's highly customizable, far better for programing and terminal work, and my only complaint is that the spell check is vastly inferior to the default I replaced. I suppose that's to be expected when you can't leverage the kind of data Samsung gets by spying on so many people's every word. I prefer to look at it as an opportunity to improve my spelling since I've gotten pretty damn lazy letting spellcheck figure out what I intended to type on the desktop.

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If a company sold me a device with a keylogger installed on I would never buy anything from that company again. I would also not let that device on my network, ever.

I would try to raise a stink with local authorities because that is almost definitely illegal.

In the US we have no privacy rights at all really. Like everything else it's all "agreed to" thanks to a bunch of legalize in their terms of service/user agreement which you can't reject if you want to use a mobile device at all. If I had an option for a cell phone that respected my privacy I'd never buy anything else, but they are all terrible. Apple probably does the best job privacy-wise, and I'm still considering it, but the loss in freedom as far as what I can do on the device would be hard to take. losing Tasker Termux and newpipe alone would kill most of what I want from a mobile device

Re: Google terminates Play Store account of Simple Keyboard developer

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When I read the privacy policy for the Samsung keyboard pre-installed on my phone and started following the links I was shocked that it was a literal keylogger sending every key press to 3rd parties who said they would use it read every word and phrase I typed to try to guess what my interests were, who I was communicating with, and what my level of cognitive ability/education was! I'd had no idea. Replaced my keyboa…

If a company sold me a device with a keylogger installed on I would never buy anything from that company again. I would also not let that device on my network, ever.

Normally I'd agree. I refuse to get anything from Lenovo for that reason (and I'm surprised so many linux users are fine with their laptops) but when it comes to cell phones there's no good option, just different degrees of horrible. Your options are basically Apple and Google and anything Google is basically malware designed to collect your personal data. Apple does a little better but is also far more restrictive over what they'll allow you to do and how they'll allow you do it.

Re: Google terminates Play Store account of Simple Keyboard developer

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I'm not saying that Google was right to do this, but this has to be taken with a grain of salt because we don't really know what the circumstances were. Can the user prove his claims that he wasn't notified about violations in the past? No he can't (more info here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burden_of_proof_(philosophy)#P... ). In this case, Google would have to prove that they actually emailed the person, but I do…

One is a developer putting his reputation on the line for a free open-source product he has put hundreds of hours of work into. The other is a faceless trillion dollar advertising company operated mostly via black-box Machine Learning with a very public history of incorrectly censoring users and terminating accounts. I know who I would tend to trust.

I am not picking any side here. I don't know the developer, and I don't know Google. My comment was more on the philosophical side, showing that someone is making a claim that he can not prove. This applies to a lot of stuff that is posted online, and the problem is people just take things for granted, when a lot of them are just some claims by unknown people. Anyway, I don't expect most of the people to understand the nuances, but maybe at least 1 person will open their eyes due to this thread.

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I'm not saying that Google was right to do this, but this has to be taken with a grain of salt because we don't really know what the circumstances were. Can the user prove his claims that he wasn't notified about violations in the past? No he can't (more info here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burden_of_proof_(philosophy)#P... ). In this case, Google would have to prove that they actually emailed the person, but I do…

How does one prove that they did not receive the violation notifications? Regardless, is it that hard for Google to actually list out the specific violations in the termination notice and provide a direct, responsive way to address them?

I mentioned in my first comment that he can not prove this, and the Wikipedia link explains why he can't (fundamental law rule). I definitely agree that Google should list the reasons for what they did. Ideally there would be a public mechanism where everyone can see the history of violations associated with a developer account.

Re: Google terminates Play Store account of Simple Keyboard developer

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Off topic, can anyone recommend an Android keyboard that allows copy and paste the way Swype did (swipe to c, swipe to v) since Swype went out of business and the stock Google keyboard bizarrely doesn't let you copy and paste?

Floris keyboard (also on f-droid) has copy & paste buttons directly above the letters. Faster than swiping.
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