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Re: Google terminates Play Store account of Simple Keyboard developer

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Post by ihusasmiiu »

iqanq wrote: post #3
rvz wrote: post #2

This is Google (as well as YouTube) showing once again they (and their robots) do not care and ultimately, they will never change. The Play Store is evidently hostile to free and open-source software. > Please do not attempt to register a new developer account. We will not be restoring your account at this time. Meanwhile on F-Droid, they welcomed Wire, an E2EE messenger. [0] That is at least much friendlier than the…

F-Droid is cool in theory, but it is largely unmaintaned and understaffed. If you upload a new build it may take weeks to get distributed to users.

> If you upload a new build it may take weeks to get distributed to users.

Why are you talking about Apple now?

Re: Google terminates Play Store account of Simple Keyboard developer

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Post by indymike »

MisterSandman wrote: post #13

Completely unrelated, but this keyboard feels a bit useless to me. I understand the appeal, but why would you not have emojis on a phone keyboard? Surely that counts as something that should be part of the basic package of something. Or am I overestimating how many people use emoji?

It's not the emoji, it's all the apis needed (or at least used) to do autocomplete suggestions that include emoji and spell corrections and so on. Not every android keyboard is doing this... but a lot of them are just spyware for ad targeting. So you say to a friend potatoes are great :smile: and you get display ads for potatoes on all of your devices.

Re: Google terminates Play Store account of Simple Keyboard developer

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Post by weberer »

Pxtl wrote: post #28
cybrox wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

These two companies destroy thousands of businesses with each update of their policies or operating systems and we have just come to accept, in some cases even endorse, this tragic state of affairs.

I never thought Microsoft would turn out to be the good guys but here we are.

Microsoft are definitely not the good guys. They're just as awful, but happen to have failed in the phone space. The true good guys are the ones developing open source phones and operating systems, like you see with the Pinephone.

Re: Google terminates Play Store account of Simple Keyboard developer

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Post by MisterSandman »

indymike wrote: post #32
MisterSandman wrote: post #13

Completely unrelated, but this keyboard feels a bit useless to me. I understand the appeal, but why would you not have emojis on a phone keyboard? Surely that counts as something that should be part of the basic package of something. Or am I overestimating how many people use emoji?

It's not the emoji, it's all the apis needed (or at least used) to do autocomplete suggestions that include emoji and spell corrections and so on. Not every android keyboard is doing this... but a lot of them are just spyware for ad targeting. So you say to a friend potatoes are great :smile: and you get display ads for potatoes on all of your devices.

Ah I see, that makes sense.

Re: Google terminates Play Store account of Simple Keyboard developer

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Post by squarefoot »

If Google Play wasn't a monopoly (read as: if Google was forced to include say at least two open app stores not related to them on the Android main page), they would think twice before bullying developers. I'm sure the folks at F-Droid would be happy to host the app, but what's F-Droid exposure to non technical users?

Re: Google terminates Play Store account of Simple Keyboard developer

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Post by ComodoHacker »

viktorcode wrote: post #15

I think it is better to use real humans for checking violations and sending emails. Yes, humans inevitably will make mistakes. However, unlike a neural network algorithm they can be reasoned with and can correct their mistakes later. I'd take much longer issue resolution with hired operators over the fast AI violation check.

>I'd take much longer issue resolution with hired operators over the fast AI violation check.

Would you also take the cost of their labor?

Re: Google terminates Play Store account of Simple Keyboard developer

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Post by my123 »

ComodoHacker wrote: post #36
viktorcode wrote: post #15

I think it is better to use real humans for checking violations and sending emails. Yes, humans inevitably will make mistakes. However, unlike a neural network algorithm they can be reasoned with and can correct their mistakes later. I'd take much longer issue resolution with hired operators over the fast AI violation check.

>I'd take much longer issue resolution with hired operators over the fast AI violation check. Would you also take the cost of their labor?

> Would you also take the cost of their labor?

Google takes a 30% cut on the Play Store, it's their problem to police it properly.

Re: Google terminates Play Store account of Simple Keyboard developer

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Post by steampilot »

I'm not saying that Google was right to do this, but this has to be taken with a grain of salt because we don't really know what the circumstances were. Can the user prove his claims that he wasn't notified about violations in the past? No he can't (more info here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burden_of_proof_(philosophy)#P...). In this case, Google would have to prove that they actually emailed the person, but I doubt they will reply as they might not even be watching this space. Should we just assume that this person is telling the truth? Are there reasons why someone would lie about this?

Re: Google terminates Play Store account of Simple Keyboard developer

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Post by stevehawk »

BarryMilo wrote: post #24
viktorcode wrote: post #15

I think it is better to use real humans for checking violations and sending emails. Yes, humans inevitably will make mistakes. However, unlike a neural network algorithm they can be reasoned with and can correct their mistakes later. I'd take much longer issue resolution with hired operators over the fast AI violation check.

Google heard you, Google don't care.

they care. they care that it would cost them money.

Re: Google terminates Play Store account of Simple Keyboard developer

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Post by Symbiote »

Since he may be in the EU, I wonder if he could appeal the decision using Article 22 of the GDPR "The data subject shall have the right not to be subject to a decision based solely on automated processing, including profiling, which produces legal effects concerning him or her or similarly significantly affects him or her."

https://gdpr-info.eu/art-22-gdpr/

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