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Ireland drops most Covid restrictions in wake of 'Omicron storm'

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Re: Ireland drops most Covid restrictions in wake of 'Omicron storm'

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At this point, you’re either vaccinated, have been sick or are dead, so all good. With Omicron beating out Delta and not causing as many hospitalizations - sure, why not.

Am I fucking crazy for not knowing what's going on any more? US hospitalizations are at an all time high, 2000 people are still dying every day, and it feels like everybody is just okay with that now. What happened? I get that everybody is tired of it, I am too, but it feels like we wasted two years of everybody's life just the take the bullet anyway.

Here's a fun youbtube video that covers this topic: https://youtu.be/Lf-8rEK63eg

Re: Ireland drops most Covid restrictions in wake of 'Omicron storm'

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Dev I know working there has said the pubs were closing really early, with the result that people simply moved the party back home afterwards. As a policy to stop groups getting COVID, it seems it encouraged the thing it was trying to prevent. Anyway, kudos to them for going back to something like normalcy, I must go back there on vacation!

Unless the entire pub went to the same house, that behaviour still sounds like a reduction in transmission risk

Re: Ireland drops most Covid restrictions in wake of 'Omicron storm'

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It is mostly unvaccinated people choosing to not get vaccinated, which people have lost patience for, and I cannot blame them.

That's coming from someone who is working from home, isn't it? There's also those of us who have exposure to the public and are reaching old ago, and we have lost all patience for the sunshine-and-unicorn crowd.

I mostly WFH, but have to visit government offices and construction sites. I have 2 kids in daycare though, so I might as well be living in a petri dish of viruses.

Re: Ireland drops most Covid restrictions in wake of 'Omicron storm'

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At this point, you’re either vaccinated, have been sick or are dead, so all good. With Omicron beating out Delta and not causing as many hospitalizations - sure, why not.

Am I fucking crazy for not knowing what's going on any more? US hospitalizations are at an all time high, 2000 people are still dying every day, and it feels like everybody is just okay with that now. What happened? I get that everybody is tired of it, I am too, but it feels like we wasted two years of everybody's life just the take the bullet anyway.

Well there are people dying everyday for any number of reasons. About 10k per day in the US.

If you are at risk of dying from covid and you didn't get vaccinated it is kinda your fault now. And if you are vaccinated and dying from covid, well there is not much more you could have done.

Re: Ireland drops most Covid restrictions in wake of 'Omicron storm'

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It is mostly unvaccinated people choosing to not get vaccinated, which people have lost patience for, and I cannot blame them.

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You'll be taking up a hospital place for people who can't get vaccinated. That seems pretty dangerous.

https://news.ycombinator.com/reply?id=30036474&goto=item%3Fi...

Re: Ireland drops most Covid restrictions in wake of 'Omicron storm'

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At this point, you’re either vaccinated, have been sick or are dead, so all good. With Omicron beating out Delta and not causing as many hospitalizations - sure, why not.

Am I fucking crazy for not knowing what's going on any more? US hospitalizations are at an all time high, 2000 people are still dying every day, and it feels like everybody is just okay with that now. What happened? I get that everybody is tired of it, I am too, but it feels like we wasted two years of everybody's life just the take the bullet anyway.

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Re: Ireland drops most Covid restrictions in wake of 'Omicron storm'

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I'm quite sure it will be much more like 2019 than you think. People will learn to live with the deaths if it continues as it was in 2020/21. Prolong the lock downs more and most of the population will go crazy.

I'd argue a lot of people have already gone crazy and will do anything to avoid going back to normal and letting people live their lives. The obsession with the need for a "new normal" amongst some is really terrifying. There needs to be some targeted campaign to "deprogram" the people that have become obsessed with covid and make them move on. I'm serious about this, if we just pretend it will get better on it's own…

Most of the hospitals near me are near capacity for ICU beds due to people refusing a free vaccination.

If I have a heart attack or car accident tomorrow, I’m at serious risk of not getting a bed and treatment.

If the anti-vac morons weren’t taking up so much space at the hospitals, I’d agree. But with numbers the way they are, “return to normal” is a pipe dream.

Re: Ireland drops most Covid restrictions in wake of 'Omicron storm'

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At this point, you’re either vaccinated, have been sick or are dead, so all good. With Omicron beating out Delta and not causing as many hospitalizations - sure, why not.

Am I fucking crazy for not knowing what's going on any more? US hospitalizations are at an all time high, 2000 people are still dying every day, and it feels like everybody is just okay with that now. What happened? I get that everybody is tired of it, I am too, but it feels like we wasted two years of everybody's life just the take the bullet anyway.

1. This isn’t the same virus as at the start of the pandemic.

2. There is a treatment protocol for COVID, unlike at the start of the pandemic.

3. There are now vaccines. There is now a large portion of the population that has vaccine immunity.

4. There is now a large portion of the population that has natural immunity.

5. It should be abundantly clear that case counts is no longer a meaningful metric.

6. Covid is a disease that has markedly different effects based upon the host’s age, medical condition, etc. There is no equivalent level of risk.

7. Most of the population, think working class and kids, cannot sustain continued lockdown conditions without serious mental/economic effects. They don’t have the privilege of the laptop class to just dial in from an office.

8. It should be clear that universally containing an aerosol virus like COVID is impossible. What is possible is targeted containment, I.e. keeping nursing homes under more precautions.

Re hospital capacity, Hospitals run close to their limit. I have been in and out of the medical system my whole life and can assure that delays, cancellations, etc are nothing new. Is there strain during the new waves? Of course. But these are waves and they will come and pass. As well perhaps firing unvaccinated nurses wasn’t a good idea? People can choose to isolate during the waves if they want, but if they feel they feel like they have no need to (vaccine immunity, natural immunity). And as a father of small children, I cannot in good conscience continue to deny them a childhood for a virus that they themselves have extremely little risk of. The human brain is only developing during its childhood years once.

Re: Ireland drops most Covid restrictions in wake of 'Omicron storm'

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Am I fucking crazy for not knowing what's going on any more? US hospitalizations are at an all time high, 2000 people are still dying every day, and it feels like everybody is just okay with that now. What happened? I get that everybody is tired of it, I am too, but it feels like we wasted two years of everybody's life just the take the bullet anyway.

Is Delta still dominant in the US? First time I am checking the US Covid stats in months, and it seems like both deaths and hospitalizations in the US are rising. The opposite is true for most of Europe, where omicron cases are rising exponentiallly, but deaths and hospitalizations are falling flat.

Omicron is dominant.

Full vaccination is at about 65%, boosters are at about 25%, lower than much of Europe.

Re: Ireland drops most Covid restrictions in wake of 'Omicron storm'

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post #26

At this point, you’re either vaccinated, have been sick or are dead, so all good. With Omicron beating out Delta and not causing as many hospitalizations - sure, why not.

Am I fucking crazy for not knowing what's going on any more? US hospitalizations are at an all time high, 2000 people are still dying every day, and it feels like everybody is just okay with that now. What happened? I get that everybody is tired of it, I am too, but it feels like we wasted two years of everybody's life just the take the bullet anyway.

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