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Re: Firefox 95 Released

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Post by ncphil »

bovermyer wrote: post #6

I can't remember why I moved from Firefox to Brave. I'm curious if I should move back again. Can anyone sell me on/off this idea?

Like others have already written: Firefox is the most effective at suppressing ads, _with the uBlock Origin extension_. Ironic that most of Mozilla's funding comes from ad king Google. M's corporate leadership has really driven the project into the ground, and still... Firefox is the only browser that makes mobile Internet usable for me, and so I stick with it everywhere to take advantage of sync for bookmarks (bookmarks being something that someone with influence at M must really hate).

Brave's credulous promotion of crypto currency turned me off, as did what I perceived to be a terrible UI design (being a long time Mozilla user, back to the days of Netscape Navigator 1.0, my bar is clearly set pretty low).

Re: Firefox 95 Released

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Post by sp332 »

stavros wrote: post #37
prohobo wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think he's talking about the fact that they had to do that at all.

In that case, what's unbelievable about a developer phoning feature detection in and just using the user-agent string? :P

Is it possible to detect the format of the webrtc video? That sounds difficult anyway.

Re: Firefox 95 Released

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Post by therios »

LeoPanthera wrote: post #36
prohobo wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What are "the far-right's pet hardware projects"? We shouldn't use Brave because the CEO, not the company, has a particular political (and moral) position you don't approve of - one which has no chance in hell of ever becoming law. This is the guy who invented JavaScript, should we also stop using that? Are you saying he's a neo nazi or neo nazi sympathizer? I noticed that Mozilla is making decisions that work agains…

The "Freedom Phone" is one of the more high profile examples. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/06/technology/freedom-phone-... As for Javascript, hopefully the difference between an abstract programming language he doesn't have total control over and a closed-sourced software project that handles your personal data on a daily basis is obvious.

You do understand that Brave's philosophy is based on the utopian (maybe naïve,IMHO) idea of fair profit distribution and automatic revenue share, right? And thus as "left" as it can be if we are going for the political spectrum.

Also have you boycotted Javascript-related tech already? Because its founder was a big part of its development...

Re: Firefox 95 Released

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Post by weikju »

wenc wrote: post #33
bovermyer wrote: post #6

I can't remember why I moved from Firefox to Brave. I'm curious if I should move back again. Can anyone sell me on/off this idea?

I moved from Chrome to Firefox a year ago, because: 1) Multi-account containers - open each tab in an isolated container with its own session cookies etc. Use case? Login to multiple Google/Azure/AWS/etc accounts at the same time on different tabs. This is a game-changer if you have to login to multiple cloud accounts because you work for a multinational and each subsidiary you support is on a different tenant. 2) Fi…

> 2) Firefox Lockwise - (though they are deprecating this on Dec 13) standalone password manager that syncs with Firefox's passwords, and which works on any iOS browser/password window. (I would use Keychain except I don't use Mac desktops).

Deprecated only in that it's being integrated with Firefox on iOS and Android, which (at least on iOS) will then show up as a valid password provider...

Re: Firefox 95 Released

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Post by [deleted] »

frankjr wrote: post #2

> We’ve added a User Agent override for Slack.com, which allows Firefox users to use more Call features and have access to Huddles. So now `window.navigator.vendor` returns "Google Inc." if your URL matches ` ://app.slack.com/ `. LOL. https://github.com/mozilla/gecko-dev/blob/eea0fac2cb8cae1e5a...

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Re: Firefox 95 Released

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Post by splatzone »

usrlocal1023 wrote: post #46
solarkraft wrote: post #19

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Kind of interesting that they don't even mention talking to Slack about just removing the check ... https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1727100

They tried but Slack weren't interested. Update from 2 years ago To summarize my current understanding: Slack's video conferencing service only support Chrome's non-standard Plan B format for WebRTC calls. And our attempts to talk to Slack about changing that were kindly rejected (we met with them shortly after they had launched the calling feature). And my repeated questions in public events about adding Firefox sup…

I'm very confused - if it's working on Firefox with the Chime SDK, what good reason is there for Slack to block the feature on Firefox?

Is there some political reason for them to disadvantage Firefox that I'm not aware of?

Re: Firefox 95 Released

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Post by thayne »

usrlocal1023 wrote: post #46
solarkraft wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Kind of interesting that they don't even mention talking to Slack about just removing the check ... https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1727100

They tried but Slack weren't interested. Update from 2 years ago To summarize my current understanding: Slack's video conferencing service only support Chrome's non-standard Plan B format for WebRTC calls. And our attempts to talk to Slack about changing that were kindly rejected (we met with them shortly after they had launched the calling feature). And my repeated questions in public events about adding Firefox sup…

Sadly, this behavior is somewhat common for many sites that block firefox based on the user agent. At least form some webcompat bug issues I've looked at.

Re: Firefox 95 Released

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Post by [deleted] »

[deleted] wrote: post #65
frankjr wrote: post #2

> We’ve added a User Agent override for Slack.com, which allows Firefox users to use more Call features and have access to Huddles. So now `window.navigator.vendor` returns "Google Inc." if your URL matches ` ://app.slack.com/ `. LOL. https://github.com/mozilla/gecko-dev/blob/eea0fac2cb8cae1e5a...

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Re: Firefox 95 Released

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Post by maccard »

jotaass wrote: post #44
hpoe wrote: post #23

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Biggest advantage for me is the container tabs. One clicka nd I can be logged into the same service as 3 different users (regular account, test account, admin account) plus puts a firewall between work stuff and personal stuff. Really love the container tabs.

I never used this feature personally. Do you think it’s better than a separate profile which you can launch with -p flag or a profile switcher extension?

It's a ux improvement over manually managing profiles. You can tell it to always open certain tabs in their own containers for example, or you can reopen your current page in a new container all from the same browser window

Re: Firefox 95 Released

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Post by foepys »

cottager2 wrote: post #12
bovermyer wrote: post #6

I can't remember why I moved from Firefox to Brave. I'm curious if I should move back again. Can anyone sell me on/off this idea?

I use Firefox. Honestly, some sites are broken, like my brokerage account and Zillow. Having uBlock work at blocking 100% of known-bad requests is worth it to me. Chrome only blocks something like 60% due to the asynchronous nature of the extension API.

> Chrome only blocks something like 60% due to the asynchronous nature of the extension API.

Let's not kid ourselves. This is clearly a 100% deliberate design decision, aimed at making content blockers less effective. This has nothing to do with the API being asynchronous. It is just the excuse Google went with.

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