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Climate change will alter where many crops are grown

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Re: Climate change will alter where many crops are grown

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Post by chalst »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #27
option wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

we should adapt to climate change and use it to our advantage. This does not conflict with trying to slow it.

> This does not conflict with trying to slow it. It can, though, so we need to be super careful. It's basic human social dynamics: once someone starts making money from mitigating a problem, they become invested in perpetuating (or even worsening) the problem. When life gives you lemons, you make lemonade. But when your lemonade stand starts raking in serious cash, you suddenly want to make sure everyone is being giv…

I partly agree, but the "super" in "super careful" is going too far. It is OK to take risks when trying to rescue people from a burning building.

Re: Climate change will alter where many crops are grown

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Post by yabatopia »

stavros wrote: post #50
gonzo41 wrote: post #49

I have to remind myself that Life will survive climate change. Humans may not but Life will. I really find it so crushingly bleak at times. I know that nature is cruel and indifferent. And that's sort of attaching intent rather than it being more just what it is, a product of physics. There's going to be some rough years ahead.

Well, you know, if someone gives you a nice toy and you break it, maybe you don't deserve it.

But in this case, his parents broke the toy, not him.

Re: Climate change will alter where many crops are grown

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Post by stavros »

yabatopia wrote: post #62
stavros wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, you know, if someone gives you a nice toy and you break it, maybe you don't deserve it.

But in this case, his parents broke the toy, not him.

The child is humanity in general.

Re: Climate change will alter where many crops are grown

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Post by yellow_lead »

grecy wrote: post #41
spoonjim wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does he protect the trees in winter?

no, it doesn't get cold enough to hurt them anymore

That's pretty sad - that the climate has changed that much. I am glad he is enjoying them, I wish it were on better terms.

Re: Climate change will alter where many crops are grown

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Post by [deleted] »

spython wrote: post #58

Landscapes are migrating faster than ever in times of the Anthropocene. They have never been static, but instead moving, mutating and transforming. Only now their migration is greatly accelerated by climate change and other anthropogenic factors. To complicate things even more, we currently lack a good concept of migration that could be used to describe the migration of landscapes. Even in great old stories of migrat…

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Re: Climate change will alter where many crops are grown

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ClumsyPilot wrote: post #30
keewee7 wrote: post #25

Canada, Russia and China seem to be the big winners of climate change. It will be interesting how that changes geopolitical dynamics.

Siberia has just had the largest forest fires in recorded history anywhere on earth. Permafrost is meling causing sinkholes and collapse of building as the earth shifts. Swaths of forest are turning into swamos and releasing massive amount of CO2 in the process

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Re: Climate change will alter where many crops are grown

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Post by sennight »

stavros wrote: post #50
gonzo41 wrote: post #49

I have to remind myself that Life will survive climate change. Humans may not but Life will. I really find it so crushingly bleak at times. I know that nature is cruel and indifferent. And that's sort of attaching intent rather than it being more just what it is, a product of physics. There's going to be some rough years ahead.

Well, you know, if someone gives you a nice toy and you break it, maybe you don't deserve it.

Who is this "someone" you're talking about, Mother Gaia? Reframing justice from a humancentric perspective to one more in line with the natural state is something that would immediately yield very entertaining results, as the people most likely to propose it would most deeply regret having gotten their way.

Re: Climate change will alter where many crops are grown

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Post by aaron695 »

yosito wrote: post #23

Anyone who knows anything about history knows that which crops are grown where changes over time. It has never been static.

>Anyone who knows anything about history

Society is so mentally ill they don't even understand how current farming works.

So it's a lost cause. These cults come in and fill that space.

The idea raised in the article that Siberia will warm and become frontier land but we'll just let the infrastructure fail is a special kind of stupid.

I do like the way they used 2099, Not 2100. They don't even have to pretend anymore it's about zapping people's brains just like ad companies.

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