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Climate change will alter where many crops are grown

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Re: Climate change will alter where many crops are grown

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post #10

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15 years ago a friend in Canada planted many fruit trees that were known not to be able to handle the winters in that part of the country. Now he enjoys a ton of fruit you "can't grow" in that part of Canada.

Does he protect the trees in winter?

no, it doesn't get cold enough to hurt them anymore

Re: Climate change will alter where many crops are grown

#42
post #33

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It isn't cold. The weather just is miserable. But the average temperatures are still pretty high and way higher than in a bad summer in the 80ies. While I didn't especially appreciate the weather here this year, my plants have been growing like hell, they like the wet and not too cold.

It IS cold compared to the last 20 years AND to other regions in Europe. Can you please stop spreading lies with "it is not cold". Get your facts straight before you post anecdotes that your plants are growing "like hell". https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/german-2021-wheat-crop-to-fa...

The articles doesn’t say the weather is cold. It says that the weather has been highly variable.

Re: Climate change will alter where many crops are grown

#43

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> People have laughed but my vineyard in Sitka, Alaska will soon be producing world-class Cabs I had this discussion with a previous CEO at a company I worked for here in Sweden a few years ago: he (being a type-A personality, and also loving fast sports cars) was very upbeat about global warming, and saw it as an opportunity to take over the Mediterranean role of growing grapes, olives and other foods that needed a…

One reason climates won't simply shift is that the length of daytime and the changes in that during the year will stay the same. Sweden will still be very dark during winter and those Mediterranean plants won't necessarily be able to deal with that.

I've seen videos of people in Canada building passive greenhouses to allow them to grow plants that typically require much warmer climates. Whether they grow and whether they taste good is a different question though....

Re: Climate change will alter where many crops are grown

#44
post #19

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This year German farmers grew watermelon for the first time (outside of a greenhouse)

We are growing watermelons for years in our garden in Germany. And how does this fit to the fact that Germany has the coldest year for a long time? edit: wtf are you downvoting? Dumb af, look up the figures.

You have two problems here. The first is "dumb af". If you actually want a discussion, remain civil. The second is that climate change is a much longer and more variable process than 20 years. Although you may not have intended it, this comes across a bit like Trump pointing to the fact that there's still snow despite "global warming". Perhaps this is the coldest year in 20 years, but (a) that doesn't change the fact that average temperatures are going up and (b) that the predictions of climate change are a less predictable climate, not just steady year-on-year rises in a single place.

Re: Climate change will alter where many crops are grown

#45
post #13

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we should adapt to climate change and use it to our advantage. This does not conflict with trying to slow it.

> This does not conflict with trying to slow it. It can, though, so we need to be super careful. It's basic human social dynamics: once someone starts making money from mitigating a problem, they become invested in perpetuating (or even worsening) the problem. When life gives you lemons, you make lemonade. But when your lemonade stand starts raking in serious cash, you suddenly want to make sure everyone is being giv…

this can be said about pretty much everything

Re: Climate change will alter where many crops are grown

#46
post #4

I couldn't read the whole article, but this has already started with crops more sensitive to climate - namely grapes for wine.

Found about this plugin on HN a few days ago that can bypass paywalls, highly recommend! Should be able to read it with it installed. https://gitlab.com/magnolia1234/bypass-paywalls-firefox-clea...

I'm a subscriber, but you can also read occasional articles on The Economist if you turn off JavaScript.

Re: Climate change will alter where many crops are grown

#47
post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It isn't cold. The weather just is miserable. But the average temperatures are still pretty high and way higher than in a bad summer in the 80ies. While I didn't especially appreciate the weather here this year, my plants have been growing like hell, they like the wet and not too cold.

It IS cold compared to the last 20 years AND to other regions in Europe. Can you please stop spreading lies with "it is not cold". Get your facts straight before you post anecdotes that your plants are growing "like hell". https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/german-2021-wheat-crop-to-fa...

Compared to 1961-1990, June and July were pretty warm. The harvest has been bad due to the rain, a few weeks ago they were expecting an above average harvest.

https://www.dwd.de/DE/presse/pressemitteilungen/DE/2021/2021...

https://www.dwd.de/DE/presse/pressemitteilungen/DE/2021/2021...

Re: Climate change will alter where many crops are grown

#49
I have to remind myself that Life will survive climate change. Humans may not but Life will. I really find it so crushingly bleak at times. I know that nature is cruel and indifferent. And that's sort of attaching intent rather than it being more just what it is, a product of physics.

There's going to be some rough years ahead.

Re: Climate change will alter where many crops are grown

#50
post #49

I have to remind myself that Life will survive climate change. Humans may not but Life will. I really find it so crushingly bleak at times. I know that nature is cruel and indifferent. And that's sort of attaching intent rather than it being more just what it is, a product of physics. There's going to be some rough years ahead.

Well, you know, if someone gives you a nice toy and you break it, maybe you don't deserve it.
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