Cannabis first domesticated 12,000 years ago • Hacker News Board

Re: Cannabis first domesticated 12,000 years ago

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Post by washadjeffmad » Sun, Jul 18, 2021, 8:28 PM UTC

pmoriarty wrote: post #41

neom wrote: post #18

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Smoked weed every day for 10 years. >I like weed as a productive drug, it's stronger than caffeine for me, but I develop tolerance and addiction quickly. Any solution to the tolerance problem? Quitting/breaks is obvious. Switch strains frequently, try to find stuff far from the other. >Is investing in weed stocks encouraging drug addiction/use? Is it ethical to promote drug use? No, but also investing in weed stocks…

"If you have a Drs note, there isn't much they can do." Many jobs require passing drug tests as a condition of employment. It would be interesting to hear if anyone has challenged such tests by arguing their cannabis use was a medical necessity.

Drug tests are not specific to metabolites only from scheduled sources. Because unscheduled cannabidiols trigger drug tests the same way as scheduled ones, they are ineffective at identifying illegal use.

And yes, this gets challenged frequently since there's a legal concentration of ∆9 for products sold in the US naturally derived from hemp.

Generally, if you weren't caught in possession of something scheduled, not admitting to use when presented with a "positive" drug test is enough to have it dismissed.

Re: Cannabis first domesticated 12,000 years ago

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Post by grawprog » Sun, Jul 18, 2021, 9:05 PM UTC

caymanjim wrote: post #52

grawprog wrote: post #49

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>There is no scientific evidence backing up any claims about the effects of indica vs sativa, and no way to know which strain you're actually getting, even from dispensaries. Even if it's the same strain cloned from the previous crop it can be different in THC/CBD content depending on growing conditions and a number of things. Even the harvest date, the drying and the curing process will affect the final product.

I agree that there are different chemical constituents in different strains, that seem to--at least anecdotally--cause different subjective effects. I specifically take exception to the indica-vs-sativa claims, which appear to be complete nonsense, and aren't backed up by any science.

I was agreeing with you. I was just pointing out further, even exactly the same plant can have different chemical constituents based on a variety of things without even taking variations between different strains into account.

Re: Cannabis first domesticated 12,000 years ago

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Post by [deleted] » Sun, Jul 18, 2021, 9:06 PM UTC

schwartzworld wrote: post #53

oblak wrote: post #33

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ADHD wasn't a thing when I was a child. Does weed help with that? I've heard a lot of treating this condition with what is essentially legal amphetamines which sounds horrible to me. It's a shame, though not surprising in the least, that the good, cheap stuff is illegal in most of the world.

It can help with ADHD. As far as the amphetamines, dosage, ROU and brain chemistry are everything. A 10mg Adderall is not the same thing as smoking 100mg of meth.

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Re: Cannabis first domesticated 12,000 years ago

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Post by wcchandler » Sun, Jul 18, 2021, 9:07 PM UTC

grasbergerm wrote: post #46

wcchandler wrote: post #28

So glad to see more genomic research around cannabis. I have a jar full of seeds from my late grandfather. He said it was from the same hemp that the Constitution was written on. Doubt the truth behind that but it’d be really cool if one day I could have it analyzed and compared for relatively cheap.

It is a common urban legend that the constitution was written on hemp, but not true. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Constitution_hemp_paper_h...

Right. Which is why I don't fully believe my late grandfather. However, it would be nice to know if the strain I have has a direct lineage of the hemp grown during the Colony days.

Re: Cannabis first domesticated 12,000 years ago

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Post by _0w8t » Sun, Jul 18, 2021, 9:37 PM UTC

robbedpeter wrote: post #3

This coincides with the Dryas impact era - there seems to be a lot of cultural advances, settlements, and other artifacts that pop up around that time. It seems very plausible to me that many of the discoveries aren't the first of their kind, but the first reimplementation after humans began to rebuild. The Dryas impact is a fascinating event - if validated, it has the potential to shake up a lot of the currently acc…

The criticism section of the second article puts strong doubts about the impact hypothesis.

Surely there were sudden drop in average temperatures in the Northern hemisphere, but we do not know what triggered it.

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Post by [deleted] » Sun, Jul 18, 2021, 9:41 PM UTC

neom wrote: post #18

deregulateMed wrote: post #4

Since this is the first cannabis topic I've seen on HN, I have lots of questions/ideas/problems I want to share. I'm going to post them in no particular order. Maybe someone has a solution >I like weed as a productive drug, it's stronger than caffeine for me, but I develop tolerance and addiction quickly. Any solution to the tolerance problem? Quitting/breaks is obvious. >Is investing in weed stocks encouraging drug…

Smoked weed every day for 10 years. >I like weed as a productive drug, it's stronger than caffeine for me, but I develop tolerance and addiction quickly. Any solution to the tolerance problem? Quitting/breaks is obvious. Switch strains frequently, try to find stuff far from the other. >Is investing in weed stocks encouraging drug addiction/use? Is it ethical to promote drug use? No, but also investing in weed stocks…

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Re: Cannabis first domesticated 12,000 years ago

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Post by bitxbitxbitcoin » Sun, Jul 18, 2021, 9:46 PM UTC

wcchandler wrote: post #64

grasbergerm wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is a common urban legend that the constitution was written on hemp, but not true. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Constitution_hemp_paper_h...

Right. Which is why I don't fully believe my late grandfather. However, it would be nice to know if the strain I have has a direct lineage of the hemp grown during the Colony days.

The paper mentions that the Colonies first started growing European hemp varieties but by the mid 1800s had largely switched to (more recently) Chinese origin hemp varieties. I hope your grandfather's seeds are original Colony day seeds and you get to find out some day for a low cost but based on this paper, chances are that it isn't :(.

Re: Cannabis first domesticated 12,000 years ago

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Post by xerox13ster » Sun, Jul 18, 2021, 10:31 PM UTC

EvRev wrote: post #22

deregulateMed wrote: post #4

Since this is the first cannabis topic I've seen on HN, I have lots of questions/ideas/problems I want to share. I'm going to post them in no particular order. Maybe someone has a solution >I like weed as a productive drug, it's stronger than caffeine for me, but I develop tolerance and addiction quickly. Any solution to the tolerance problem? Quitting/breaks is obvious. >Is investing in weed stocks encouraging drug…

>Is there a solution to munchies? Lookup THCV, it is an analog that decreases your appetite along with a host of other benefits. Like you can consume any type of cannabis and then take a little THCV to counteract the munchies.

Also Linalool terpene dominant strains

Re: Cannabis first domesticated 12,000 years ago

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Post by argiopetech » Sun, Jul 18, 2021, 11:12 PM UTC

mandmandam wrote: post #19

tiahura wrote: post #8

So 4000 years before rice? I’m not subject matter expert, but this doesn’t seem quite right.

Why ever not? Off the top of my head, weed is miles easier to cultivate, provides far more medicinal benefit, has more complete nutrition, and gives obvious and immediate relief from pain.

Also makes great rope.

Re: Cannabis first domesticated 12,000 years ago

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Post by turndown » Mon, Jul 19, 2021, 5:15 AM UTC

deregulateMed wrote: post #4

Since this is the first cannabis topic I've seen on HN, I have lots of questions/ideas/problems I want to share. I'm going to post them in no particular order. Maybe someone has a solution >I like weed as a productive drug, it's stronger than caffeine for me, but I develop tolerance and addiction quickly. Any solution to the tolerance problem? Quitting/breaks is obvious. >Is investing in weed stocks encouraging drug…

As far as easy ways to microdose, obviously there are options such as chillums, but I personally love and use vaporizers. Very convenient, much less smell, and uses very little product. I'd recommend /r/vaporents if you are interested in learning more.