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Signal Adds Cryptocurrency Support
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Re: Signal Adds Cryptocurrency Support
#62After convincing all my friends to move from WhatsApp to Signal I am really annoyed about this move. This really damaged the trust I have for Signal. I hope they realize their mistake quickly and drop this idea.
I think it won't be problematic as if someone doesn't want to create wallet they dont have to. So this payment option will be for only those who wants to enable it.
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#63Sending payments across the world is going to get as simple as sending a text message with or without signal. While I don't agree on the details, Signal is heading in the right direction.
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#64Does Moxie want to just make it really easy to buy cocaine on a night out?
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#65Earlier quoted context omitted.
There's no need to implement a payment mechanism via cryptocurrency. Signal can just create a "pro" version and sell that.
AFAIK crypto is the only way to get private and secure payments. Any other payment mechanism wouldn't fit the ethos of Signal.
And why exactly does Signal need to be a kitchen sink app? What's next, CandyCrush inside Signal?
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#66Earlier quoted context omitted.
There's no need to implement a payment mechanism via cryptocurrency. Signal can just create a "pro" version and sell that.
You seem to be confusing paying for Signal (there is no way to pay for it, but you can donate to the foundation) and exchanging money with your friends.
As Schneier says, that could be implemented in a separate application, not the core Signal product.
Signal just added a bunch of crowbars to the people who want to crack it open. Money laundering and tax evasion are seen seriously and there's generally more people doing it than, for example, planning terrorism.
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#67I convinced quite a lot of my friends to switch to Threema. No phone number required, and really open source ( https://threema.ch/en/faq/source_code )
I would like to do the same, but most of my friends aren't even on Signal. There is no chance in hell that they buy a messenger.
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#68I think there are 3 attitudes towards Signal: 1. Anger from purists who care about the fact it's not decentralised, and that Moxie runs the show, and that it uses phone numbers etc etc... 2. Indifference from those who have never heard of it 3. Joy from those who are extremely happy a decent, private, alternative to Facebook/Whatsapp exists My worry is that group 1) try and ruin it for the rest of us. Signal is liter…
That seems wrong, is like if Mozilla forces crypto in Firefox. there will be many Firefox users that will not like it, it is not only the haters or Chrome users that will complain, hopefully maybe you can see the missing 4th perspective.
I don't believe the main competitors to Firefox (Chrome, Edge, Safari) offer a payment mechanism? So this wouldn't be required for core feature parity.
However the two main competitors to Signal (Telegram and Whatsapp imo) do have a payment mechanism.
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#69Signal is really just another in a long line of siloed messengers. Eventually the people running the system do something obnoxious. Such things do not have a future.
Any system that has not reached the point that the bits and pieces are controlled by different entities should be considered just a technology demonstration. Signal has never even been close to "the best app we have out there".
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#70I'm ready to jump over to Element (/matrix). Anybody else?
We were considering moving from Keybase to Element for a group I’m part of, but the iOS client is bad. Lots of UI bugs that make it borderline unusable. The Android client seemed fine, but iOS is the lion’s share of our membership so the state of the iOS client makes Element a hard pass.