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Tuna’s Last Stand

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Go to the Tokyo Fish Market if you really want your eyes opened. 1500 tons of fish brought in every day. They just scoop up everything they can get their nets on and sell it at the market. Truly eye-opening experience.

And people panic when there are discussions of population decline as if these levels of resource extraction are sustainable.

How many tons is sustainable?

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Go to the Tokyo Fish Market if you really want your eyes opened. 1500 tons of fish brought in every day. They just scoop up everything they can get their nets on and sell it at the market. Truly eye-opening experience.

Wonder what will happen when fish isn't enough to sustain those who depend on it. Could totally see wars being waged over food sources

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Are fisheries guilty? Are regulators and governments guilty? I think the guilty side are end-consumers, particularly in rich countries, people themselves and their lifestyle (ex: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pet_food#Impact ) note: I haven't eat a gram of fish or meat since more than a decade (mostly because I don't feel the need, being already full with local products: fruits, plants, legumes, rice

If you don't eat fish, it will just drive down the price and be fed to your cat.

consider fruit in the supermarket, that came in plane from another continent. By not buying them, in the short term, there'll be a bit of waste and donations to associations. In the mid/long term supermakets reshape their strategy, stop buying them as well, exporters then reduce their shippings, etc..

same goes for fish/meat productions, if you cut down the consumer stream, the producers will be forced to adapt, takes time sure..

About pets, our planet is overpopulated (at least over-consuming), the fact there are over a billion of pets is already a nonsense, it's like virtually increasing human population by 5-10%, do we really need this?

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Are fisheries guilty? Are regulators and governments guilty? I think the guilty side are end-consumers, particularly in rich countries, people themselves and their lifestyle (ex: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pet_food#Impact ) note: I haven't eat a gram of fish or meat since more than a decade (mostly because I don't feel the need, being already full with local products: fruits, plants, legumes, rice

I'm sorry, but I refuse to feel guilty and I don't see why anyone should. When I go to the store and buy some tuna I expect that it was responsibly fished. If it wasn't then it's the fault of our government and regulation, regular customer shouldn't be worried about that. The same with meat - when I buy some I expect that animals weren't abused and beaten at farms, if they were then there's an issue in the system.

"I refuse to feel guilty. When I fill my Hummer at the pump, I expect it to be filled with renewable corn oil. If it isn't, there's an issue with the system."

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Are fisheries guilty? Are regulators and governments guilty? I think the guilty side are end-consumers, particularly in rich countries, people themselves and their lifestyle (ex: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pet_food#Impact ) note: I haven't eat a gram of fish or meat since more than a decade (mostly because I don't feel the need, being already full with local products: fruits, plants, legumes, rice

Seems like there's a huge opportunity for someone to nail the greener meat market for pets.

Rat meat? Mouse meat? Crickets and other bugs?

The fact that we feed our cats need, pork and salmon, meat from beasts that they'd never have a hope of taking down in nature, is ridiculous.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mostly eat salmon, but I'd love to switch to smaller fish. Does anyone know a good way to get herring or sardines other than canned? Apart from being more expensive due to preparation, even bpa free can liners worry me a bit. Frozen would be ideal.

Jarred herring is pretty common. Whole Foods carries https://products.wholefoodsmarket.com/brand/blue-hill-bay which are quite delicious. Note: don't overdo it with the small fishes. They have high levels of purines which cause gout.

If you're lucky enough to live near a metropolitan area, then you might have a Russian market. I'd recommend going to one and getting one of the small packages of herring. There usually have whole fillets preserved in what amounts to vegetable/sunflower oil and salt. No sugar added. The flavor of this herring is more pure, and reminds me more of what it's like to get it fresh from a vendor in Holland.

It might just be the diabetic predisposition I have due to family members having it, but the idea of herring preserved with sugar like you see with jarred variety, is of off-putting to me.

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