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Uighurs: 'Credible case' China carrying out genocide

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Re: Uighurs: 'Credible case' China carrying out genocide

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post #17

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Do the Muslim countries care, No!

That's the interesting part TBH... why is nobody sticking up for them?

The willingness to take a financial / trade hit for a random group of people hasn't been a common event as far as governments go... much ever?

Sad but that seems to be the case.

Re: Uighurs: 'Credible case' China carrying out genocide

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> having an excuse to go to war with China I don't see any evidence of that. The current administration is pretty friendly towards China. (China would lose though. Just block the oil and coal supply routes)

We tried "block the oil and coal supply routes" with Japan. The result was an attack on Pearl Harbor.

They did lose, eventually.

Re: Uighurs: 'Credible case' China carrying out genocide

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While I agree, there are plenty of poor sources getting too much uncritical attention in the press, even by China's own accounts there are a large network of education facilities, trying to hammer in a strong sense of national identity. It is hard not to interpret this as a direct assault on the culture of Uighur people. It shouls also be viewed in it's geopolitical context - China is desparate to have secure land ro…

Not to mention the family separations, forced sterilizations, and extrajudicial killings perpetrated on Hispanic people directly by the United States.

Re: Uighurs: 'Credible case' China carrying out genocide

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I work with a lot of folks from China and they are bending over backwards trying to defend the CCP. Their argument almost always boils down to "I know people who live in Xinjiang and they say it's not that bad." Equivalent to someone using their one black friend as proof that they can't possibly be racist.

There were a whole series of posts on HN, and other sites by folks who talked about people traveling in the area and not seeing anything. I don't know what that is supposed to mean / why we would assume you'd notice it ... On HN and elsewhere people mentioned how they were happy people could travel through the area and not have to worry about "thieves" and they'd make some comparisons to travel in the west, a sort of…

They build huge compounds (found easily through news websites) where they put everyone behind closed doors.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinjiang_internment_camps

Re: Uighurs: 'Credible case' China carrying out genocide

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Yes - we know this. We've known this for a long time. The question is what now? Western nations have shown no political will to stand up to China.

When the Holocaust was happening, no one cared. The holocaust was stopped because it aligned with a different interest: to stop nazi Germany. The holocaust was only to make the nazi look bad. Otherwise no one cared about Jews either.

Most people did not know about the Holocaust until after WW2 started.

Re: Uighurs: 'Credible case' China carrying out genocide

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post #21

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No one in the history of ever has gone to war to stop a genocide. Many have been started to perpetrate one though.

Serbia called and want its bombed army back.

You could probably amend it to "No one in history has ever gone to war against a country they might lose against to stop a genocide."

Re: Uighurs: 'Credible case' China carrying out genocide

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I work with a lot of folks from China and they are bending over backwards trying to defend the CCP. Their argument almost always boils down to "I know people who live in Xinjiang and they say it's not that bad." Equivalent to someone using their one black friend as proof that they can't possibly be racist.

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Re: Uighurs: 'Credible case' China carrying out genocide

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You cannot trust anything reported out of China, absolutely nothing. I do not doubt that there are people being slaughtered and massacred as I write, but anything reported out of China must be taken deeply suspicious, especially if it comes from the government. The Chinese government is the single greatest threat to freedom, and human rights this world has ever seen.

The... single greatest? Not the great empire builders? Not the USSR? Modern China, really? Not even, y'know, the ancient chinese empires who subjugated most of asia? The PRC? I mean, just objectively modern chinese citizens, while they certainly don't live under western-level protection for expression, are (owing just to technology and nothing less) vastly more able to share their opinions widely and securely than...…

I don't think it's hyperbole. The CCP seeks to control social media by threatening to imprison anyone who speaks against it, even while outside China. And this isn't the first Chinese government to be accused of establishing too much state control over businesses [1].

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Tientsin

Re: Uighurs: 'Credible case' China carrying out genocide

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post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do the Muslim countries care, No!

That's the interesting part TBH... why is nobody sticking up for them?

Muslims are hardly a unified front. Look at how many majority-Muslim countries have had civil wars or wars against each other at some point in the last 30 years.
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