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Re: Cancel The New York Times

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Post by saalweachter » Mon, Feb 15, 2021, 5:23 PM UTC

uep wrote: post #60

KozmoNau7 wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He has always been divorced from reality: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/08/op-ed-how-i-gave-up-...

To me, this shows radical leadership, and that he is very unattached to societal norms. Radical leadership meaning that this is kind of the antithesis of a follower mentality. I think it's a kind of genius, but also a personal failing. I really appreciate people who are willing to "question everything", because there are a lot of things we take for granted without thinking about why. The failures I think this comes f…

My favorite portmanteau for this was "errorgance": "errorgant means to be twice as certain as someone who is merely arrogant while possessing only one-tenth the requisite facts."

Re: Cancel The New York Times

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Post by KozmoNau7 » Mon, Feb 15, 2021, 8:39 PM UTC

uep wrote: post #60

KozmoNau7 wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He has always been divorced from reality: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/08/op-ed-how-i-gave-up-...

To me, this shows radical leadership, and that he is very unattached to societal norms. Radical leadership meaning that this is kind of the antithesis of a follower mentality. I think it's a kind of genius, but also a personal failing. I really appreciate people who are willing to "question everything", because there are a lot of things we take for granted without thinking about why. The failures I think this comes f…

The main failing he has, which is clearly on display in the article, is that he utterly ignores all externalities. It is almost as if things don't happen or don't matter if he isn't personally observing them, perhaps it is a type of solipsism or extreme egocentrism.

In his mind, he's not wasting water because he never does laundry, while he totally ignores the environmental impact of having his clothes producing in China and shipped to him.

He refuses to cook and is genuinely offended when the apartment he is looking at has a kitchen, because why would they assume he would want to cook? He finds cooking horrible, bordering on torture, so surely that must be the Correct and Rational way to be.

He seems to think he can just figure out everything from first principles by doing a few web searches and reading through a bit of literature and extrapolating from there.

Every article from (and by) him is an absolutely fascinating and genuinely horrifying look into a mind that is just fundamentally out of whack, but has never faced enough adversity in life to properly recognize that.

Re: Cancel The New York Times

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Post by lamontcg » Mon, Feb 15, 2021, 10:52 PM UTC

nickpp wrote: post #51

cocacola1 wrote: post #8

I'm hoping someone can succinctly explain the hate for the NYT. Didn't get it before, don't get it now. It seems perfectly adequate. Same goes for WSJ, FT, the Economist, WaPo, etc. >I see it now. I see that information and truth and freedom have been oppressed. I had been silenced. We had all been bound and gagged and silenced, not directly, but indirectly, by a strange, complex, invisible, sinister force. But I see…

Because everything they publish is propaganda, you can feel their agenda behind every article and every paragraph. There is no diversity in their ranks, just conformity and uniformity. There is no debate of ideas, storms of conflicting concepts, just reaffirmation of the same things they all believe in, the single universal truth they subscribe to with no doubt or consideration to the possibility they may be mistaken…

> They are a religion: the FoxNews of the Left.

If you hang out with actual leftists, they've probably hated the NYT longer than you have.