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Isn't that essentially saying you don't want your search engine ranking by relevance and quality?
Relevance and quality are subjective.
What criteria should be used to rank search results?
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> conspiracy theorists like CNN, MBNBC ??? >let google just show government sites. Big Brother knows best. .org is not a government domain. even so, maybe if they and other tech companies had done this earlier we wouldn't have gotten into this trump + coronavirus mess
> ??? Exactly. This is the problem with the country. Half the crazies believe one set of conspiracies is the truth and the other half believe in another set of conspiracies. > .org is not a government domain. Right, I said they were special interests funded by the wealthy. > maybe if they and other tech companies had done this earlier we wouldn't have gotten into this trump + coronavirus mess Right... And in a few ye…
See a therapist, please.
Re: Popular Pirate Sites ‘Disappear’ from DuckDuckGo’s Top Search Results
#64Hey, it just hit me: Is there a search engine (meta or otherwise out there) where I can up/downvote sites (or otherwise customize the rankings)? Let's say I search for something HTML/JS/CSS related, I would generally want to prioritize MDN over W3Schools, but now I'm at the mercy of whatever the search engine decides is higher relevancy. I realize dynamic search results could be quite heavy, but it wouldn't necessari…
Haven't tried it, but the architecture of Yacy probably allows it: crawlers everywhere have the index data, and you can define the importance of this or that criteria from your own portal
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#65Earlier quoted context omitted.
> it is also shores up my belief that whatever your implicit definition of "duty of a society to protect its citizens against such efforts" is, I can assure you, we neither need nor want it. I'm not just an antifascist, I'm German. My ancestors proved for the rest of the world where a worldview based on lies and hate (and qanon is nothing more than that) will lead. Their history is proof that a society must defend it…
Again, your faith believes false accusations against perceived heretics are acceptable tactics; your word against them is less than empty. Your ancestors and plenty of other examples throughout history are proof where censorship and book burning lead. The principle of sunlight is the best disinfectant has proven time and again to be true and the only people who argue against it are those being shown to be wrong under…
> The principle of sunlight is the best disinfectant has proven time and again to be true and the only people who argue against it are those being shown to be wrong under the light
I am a strong advocate for free speech, but I really think it is naive to believe that truth will always win no matter what. History is full of examples where propaganda and lies wins. I am not arguing for censorship, but I am arguing that we need to confront lies and propaganda with more than just platitudes about the truth winning out in the end.
The truth needs advocates.
Re: Popular Pirate Sites ‘Disappear’ from DuckDuckGo’s Top Search Results
#66Hey, it just hit me: Is there a search engine (meta or otherwise out there) where I can up/downvote sites (or otherwise customize the rankings)? Let's say I search for something HTML/JS/CSS related, I would generally want to prioritize MDN over W3Schools, but now I'm at the mercy of whatever the search engine decides is higher relevancy. I realize dynamic search results could be quite heavy, but it wouldn't necessari…
Unfortunately any such scheme nowadays would be a lucrative target (to say the least) for bots and mechanical Turks. It would basically just become another SEO metric.
Instead you can exclude a specific site using "-site:example.com". This works on at least DDG and Google. Now, if only search engines would let me save those exclusions as preferences (even in a cookie, in case of privacy-focused search engines like DDG) I could blacklist a whole bunch of high-SEO crap sites. That would be a game changer: one black pattern and you're out of my search results.
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#67Is the government so inept that it can’t do it’s policing itself? Why are search companies being forced to police the internet for the police? If there was a business down the street doing illegal gambling, I would not say “hey let’s just stop buses from taking people there.” Hell no. Any decent police would go stop that business from operating, not go to the bus companies taking people there.
"illegal" means different things regionally. One locale's legal content is considered elsewhere in another. We don't all want to be bound by China's laws. And even in America, most laws are at the state level (e.g., ads for marijuana are OK in much of the country, but definitely not for Texas), so we wouldn't even want to resort to "American" standards.
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We go to school in the US for usually at least 12 years. Any person should already be educated on topics such as anti vaccination. In particular in my state you can’t even go to school if you haven’t had your vaccines. Not only that but we learn how to learn in school. The argument for censorship against stupidity assumes exactly that, that the majority of people are stupid which they are not.
> The argument for censorship against stupidity assumes exactly that, that the majority of people are stupid which they are not. It's not censorship against stupidity. It's censorship against bullshitters who spread medical misinformation that may put people in danger; factually untenable opinions, expressed in an assertive manner, in a context which seems authoritative to the layperson. Nobody says the majority is s…
My point was that we should and can understand the difference between sources of bad information and good information, this is and should be taught in schools. I don’t think we should protect the minority by limiting everyone. We could make a safety vs security argument but in my opinion we should protect children only and allow adults to make stupid mistakes. This is why we have drinking age, smoking age and drivers license ages. At some point we need to assume a level of intelligence in the population and in accordance allow freedom to make mistakes.
Re: Popular Pirate Sites ‘Disappear’ from DuckDuckGo’s Top Search Results
#69Hey, it just hit me: Is there a search engine (meta or otherwise out there) where I can up/downvote sites (or otherwise customize the rankings)? Let's say I search for something HTML/JS/CSS related, I would generally want to prioritize MDN over W3Schools, but now I'm at the mercy of whatever the search engine decides is higher relevancy. I realize dynamic search results could be quite heavy, but it wouldn't necessari…
Unfortunately any such scheme nowadays would be a lucrative target (to say the least) for bots and mechanical Turks. It would basically just become another SEO metric. Instead you can exclude a specific site using "-site:example.com". This works on at least DDG and Google. Now, if only search engines would let me save those exclusions as preferences (even in a cookie, in case of privacy-focused search engines like DD…
I might be too sleepy, but I think there was a time where Google supported blacklisting a site on logged in queries?
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#70Earlier quoted context omitted.
Again, your faith believes false accusations against perceived heretics are acceptable tactics; your word against them is less than empty. Your ancestors and plenty of other examples throughout history are proof where censorship and book burning lead. The principle of sunlight is the best disinfectant has proven time and again to be true and the only people who argue against it are those being shown to be wrong under…
> The principle of sunlight is the best disinfectant has proven time and again to be true and the only people who argue against it are those being shown to be wrong under the light I am a strong advocate for free speech, but I really think it is naive to believe that truth will always win no matter what. History is full of examples where propaganda and lies wins. I am not arguing for censorship, but I am arguing that…
That's a fair point; I know there's a lot of truth in the quote “A lie can travel halfway around the world before the truth can get its boots on.” and I've seen plenty examples of major damage caused thanks to the phenomenon (Which has no doubt helped with the arguments advocacating for censorship.)
I'd say a couple of things.
In a situation where we do have free speech I believe the truth does overall win out in the end; very often it takes a frustratingly long time and often comes too late to repair the damages caused by the lie but I believe that that overall, if you'll excuse the horrendous remark, "the truth does find a way".
I also know that the current lies and propaganda we so often see are an absolute stain on these past decades and I'm also in agreement that something needs to be done. Whatever it is however I'd like to see it built on the free speech principle rather than against it, even if the principal isn't without its flaws.