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Re: Popular Pirate Sites ‘Disappear’ from DuckDuckGo’s Top Search Results

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Post by mschuster91 »

smaryjerry wrote: post #21
bko wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree in general. But what if I did want to know if vaccines are dangerous, so I search "are vaccines dangerous". If I want to find an anti-vaccine site, I should be able to do so, but the search term "are vaccines dangerous" should be viewed neutrally, in which case I would find links from cdc or .gov sites to be more useful that anti-vaccines sites

We go to school in the US for usually at least 12 years. Any person should already be educated on topics such as anti vaccination. In particular in my state you can’t even go to school if you haven’t had your vaccines. Not only that but we learn how to learn in school. The argument for censorship against stupidity assumes exactly that, that the majority of people are stupid which they are not.

> Any person should already be educated on topics such as anti vaccination.

The quality of US public schools can vary immensely, especially for students in poor areas where the community can't put up much money and education budgets are the first thing to be slashed.

Additionally, many states allow outright lies such as creationism or abstinence-only sex ed to be taught - both of this is further evidence that it cannot be assumed automatically that a person educated in the US is well educated.

Re: Popular Pirate Sites ‘Disappear’ from DuckDuckGo’s Top Search Results

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Post by spurgu »

hiccuphippo wrote: post #37
anaganisk wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Quality, the same "AI" recommends me irrelevant videos, cant recognise me as a human if i log in from any browser other than chrome, and that issues takedowns randomly for users. The ine that spams, pinterest like shit site quality on front page. Yeah, no, I dont want it to decide.

The first thing I do when searching for images is `-site:pinterest.com` The quality of results increases immensely.

IIRC Google used to have a dropdown in the search results similar to "Don't show results from this site". Luckily I don't see Yahoo Answers results anymore but would be nice to have Pinterest removed.

Re: Popular Pirate Sites ‘Disappear’ from DuckDuckGo’s Top Search Results

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Post by spurgu »

sgift wrote: post #44
intricatedetail wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Relevance and quality are subjective.

Of course they are. That's the reason Google "won" in the first place after all. They had a algorithm which better fit what people expected.

But tides are turning, Google's results are steadily going downhill. Unfortunately it seems to be too much of a daunting task with today's size of the internet to jump in with a viable competitor.

Re: Popular Pirate Sites ‘Disappear’ from DuckDuckGo’s Top Search Results

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Post by wmf »

smaryjerry wrote: post #18

Is the government so inept that it can’t do it’s policing itself? Why are search companies being forced to police the internet for the police? If there was a business down the street doing illegal gambling, I would not say “hey let’s just stop buses from taking people there.” Hell no. Any decent police would go stop that business from operating, not go to the bus companies taking people there.

There was massive online opposition to that idea: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protests_against_SOPA_and_PIPA

Re: Popular Pirate Sites ‘Disappear’ from DuckDuckGo’s Top Search Results

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Post by textgel »

mschuster91 wrote: post #47
textgel wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

With all due respect your comment history outlines you as a progressive and the first line you have on your profile is "You call it "alt-left", I proudly call it "Antifa".". Among the many aspects of your faith that I disagree with, one of the most utilised by its followers is its enthusiastic advocacy of false accusations against heretics in the pursuit of attacking them. And so while I don't know anything about qan…

> it is also shores up my belief that whatever your implicit definition of "duty of a society to protect its citizens against such efforts" is, I can assure you, we neither need nor want it. I'm not just an antifascist, I'm German. My ancestors proved for the rest of the world where a worldview based on lies and hate (and qanon is nothing more than that) will lead. Their history is proof that a society must defend it…

Again, your faith believes false accusations against perceived heretics are acceptable tactics; your word against them is less than empty.

Your ancestors and plenty of other examples throughout history are proof where censorship and book burning lead. The principle of sunlight is the best disinfectant has proven time and again to be true and the only people who argue against it are those being shown to be wrong under the light. Yes it permits the odd crazies to exist on the fringe, that's fine; flat earthers anti-vaxers and the rest were pointed at and laughed at long before the recent desperate grab for censorship by authoritarians was made.

Open access to information is only a problem in the eyes of those who want to misslead.

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Post by Dylan16807 »

spurgu wrote: post #50
ffpip wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are the search results on yandex.com different from yandex.ru ?

Let me, eh, yandex that for you: https://i.imgur.com/JgUxoTk.png

An example of one search being the same, when that search isn't likely to trigger any takedowns/removals, isn't very helpful.

Re: Popular Pirate Sites ‘Disappear’ from DuckDuckGo’s Top Search Results

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Post by spurgu »

Hey, it just hit me: Is there a search engine (meta or otherwise out there) where I can up/downvote sites (or otherwise customize the rankings)?

Let's say I search for something HTML/JS/CSS related, I would generally want to prioritize MDN over W3Schools, but now I'm at the mercy of whatever the search engine decides is higher relevancy.

I realize dynamic search results could be quite heavy, but it wouldn't necessarily have to be...

Or if I'm just tired of CNN results when searching for news topics I could just downvote them and get other news sites prioritized.

I don't want a search engine to choose these preferences/filters for me, and I don't want "unfiltered" stuff like conspiracy theories in my top hits either just because they're popular.

Re: Popular Pirate Sites ‘Disappear’ from DuckDuckGo’s Top Search Results

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Post by schoen »

wmf wrote: post #54
smaryjerry wrote: post #18

Is the government so inept that it can’t do it’s policing itself? Why are search companies being forced to police the internet for the police? If there was a business down the street doing illegal gambling, I would not say “hey let’s just stop buses from taking people there.” Hell no. Any decent police would go stop that business from operating, not go to the bus companies taking people there.

There was massive online opposition to that idea: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protests_against_SOPA_and_PIPA

You could argue that SOPA and PIPA were more like "stopping the buses from taking people there", although these analogies are rarely exact.
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