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YouTube TV sharply increases monthly subscription to $64.99
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#62Really not surprising that old media still has pull like this.
I enjoyed using YouTubeTV during this past college football season, but I won't be renewing this year. It was already iffy at best with Coronavirus, but now with this price hike YouTube can forget it. Probably exactly what old media wants from us anyway so we go back to cable. Forever a cable cutter.
If needed, I'll go back to Sling despite it going up as well when it first got started, but not as dramatically as YouTubeTV. Sling Orange + sports package will be $40, which is good for the few months I need it. At-least we still have some other options out there instead of having to go back to cable.
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#63Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm no lawyer, but it doesn't exactly seem legal. Streaming free local network broadcasts was definitively ruled as illegal by the Supreme Court in 2014 -- remember that was Aereo's entire business model. [1] It seems like the Stanford service is trying to justify themselves by being an academic study and limiting to 500 concurrent participants... but it's telling they don't list any legal justification on the site,…
I never understood what the business interest of the tv stations was in preventing streaming online. They already give away for free the stream over the air. What gives? Do they make money on the antennas or receivers or something?
The rights to distribute a program on different media and in different geographies are sold separately. The broadcaster itself is likely not authorized to distribute the show online, so they can't authorize you to do it either.
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#64The whole streaming platform war is beginning to resemble the Stone Soup parable. At some point, no platform will have enough content for anyone to care to subscribe (arguably now). Someone needs to come along and convince them all that sharing is in everyone’s best interests.
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#65ObShameless reminder that https://puffer.stanford.edu remains free of charge. The site streams San Francisco affiliates and local stations of NBC/CBS/ABC/PBS/FOX/CW as part of a university study on video streaming algorithms -- it's essentially a big A/B test to try to reproduce or clarify some of the findings in the research literature. We're now posting all our data and analysis each day. Research talk here: https:…
I'm no lawyer, but it doesn't exactly seem legal. Streaming free local network broadcasts was definitively ruled as illegal by the Supreme Court in 2014 -- remember that was Aereo's entire business model. [1] It seems like the Stanford service is trying to justify themselves by being an academic study and limiting to 500 concurrent participants... but it's telling they don't list any legal justification on the site,…
I imagine it passed legal by arguing based on the fair use doctrine, a defense that Aereo didn't raise.
Seems like a long study, but I suppose it's nice to have a bigger dataset.
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#66For any YouTube TV PMs reading, I just added an event to my calendar marking the day I'll cancel my account. Thanks for the helpful reference to the exact date my current rate expires. Spectrum is offering more channels for $45/month and you don't even need a cable box if you're using an Apple TV. YouTube TV is an OK service that is very rough around the edges and I won't miss it a single minute after I cancel. "This…
Yeah, when I first saw the email I put a reminder to cancel before August billing, but I've been using it much less recently anyway so seeing this thread I decided to just cancel immediately. Hopefully in the future there will be a basic option back in the $40 range
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#67For any YouTube TV PMs reading, I just added an event to my calendar marking the day I'll cancel my account. Thanks for the helpful reference to the exact date my current rate expires. Spectrum is offering more channels for $45/month and you don't even need a cable box if you're using an Apple TV. YouTube TV is an OK service that is very rough around the edges and I won't miss it a single minute after I cancel. "This…
Not the same. Only works at home
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#68Did patio11 start working at Google instead of Stripe? More seriously though, it looks like people are overwhelmingly not happy about this change. Google already launched a special form to give feedback: https://support.google.com/youtubetv/contact/yttv_price_hike... ) Their youtubeTV support pages also have a banner stating: "We are experiencing high contact volumes and longer than normal wait times. If you have fee…
Interesting URL. You don't often see a company refer to their own action as a "price hike".
Probably because those who made that feedback page are the same people within the YouTube team that actually use the service and feel the same as we do.
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#69What's more interesting to me is that Google only has ~2M YouTube TV subscribers. Perhaps there's newer metrics now. https://twitter.com/RichLightShed/status/1224454820309811202 That's nothing, and in my mind - doesn't bode well for the long-term prospects of the service. I've been a subscriber for about a year, but with the price increases, and the interface on AppleTV that seemingly wants to always show me Tennis w…
That's $1.5Bn/year in revenue for a 3-year-old product that just rebroadcasts content. How is that "nothing"?
Also it leverages existing infrastructure (perhaps in a much tighter use case).
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#70So, what's the best way for me to watch SNL, Rachel Maddow, Rick and Morty, and Brooklyn Nine-Nine? Hulu?