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YouTube TV sharply increases monthly subscription to $64.99

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$779.88 a year? Yikes. That's a lot of money.

Isn't that A LOT more than just getting cable for Internet+TV? I mean, YouTube doesn't include the $50/month I'm paying for internet.

I had the same question after reading the email from Youtube this afternoon, looking at Verizon's offerings they have monthly tiers at $50, $70, and $90. Ignoring any first time user bundles, incentives, etc. I don't know what the overlap between the base tier and Youtube TV's base offerings is, but it's for sure covered by the middle tier.

I was happy with Youtube TV at its initial $40 price, lukewarm with the first price jump, and now I'm really questioning it at $65. I travel quite a bit so the on-demand capability is valuable but that's starting to be a stretch.

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What's more interesting to me is that Google only has ~2M YouTube TV subscribers. Perhaps there's newer metrics now. https://twitter.com/RichLightShed/status/1224454820309811202 That's nothing, and in my mind - doesn't bode well for the long-term prospects of the service. I've been a subscriber for about a year, but with the price increases, and the interface on AppleTV that seemingly wants to always show me Tennis w…

That's $1.5Bn/year in revenue for a 3-year-old product that just rebroadcasts content. How is that "nothing"?

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Did patio11 start working at Google instead of Stripe? More seriously though, it looks like people are overwhelmingly not happy about this change. Google already launched a special form to give feedback: https://support.google.com/youtubetv/contact/yttv_price_hike... ) Their youtubeTV support pages also have a banner stating: "We are experiencing high contact volumes and longer than normal wait times. If you have fee…

Interesting URL. You don't often see a company refer to their own action as a "price hike".

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#34
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What's more interesting to me is that Google only has ~2M YouTube TV subscribers. Perhaps there's newer metrics now. https://twitter.com/RichLightShed/status/1224454820309811202 That's nothing, and in my mind - doesn't bode well for the long-term prospects of the service. I've been a subscriber for about a year, but with the price increases, and the interface on AppleTV that seemingly wants to always show me Tennis w…

2M paying subscribers is 1B+ USD annual revenue — nothing to sneeze at!

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YouTube TV is nowhere near good enough to demand that high of a price. The shows are limited, the DVR interface is terrible, and the DVR barely even works. It's nowhere near as good as Vue was.

Or this one (I'm on android): Tapping the "cast" button to send to a Chromecast while in the middle of a show causes a random jump. On a good day, it would start playing at the beginning of the show, on a bad one it would jump to an entirely different network.

I assume my experience was unique somehow because it's too egregious of a bug to ignore (it basically gave me a choice of ditch the Chromecast or ditch YoutubeTV, in the end I did both), but I was using an android phone and a gen 3 chromecast so I can't imagine why this only affected me. Never got fixed in the ~1 year I had the service.

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$779.88 a year? Yikes. That's a lot of money.

Isn't that A LOT more than just getting cable for Internet+TV? I mean, YouTube doesn't include the $50/month I'm paying for internet.

YouTube TV's value proposition includes DVR and, if you're in your home area, the ability to fast forward through commercials for DVR'd content.

The tricky part I'm noticing is how traditional providers are bundling. Mediacom provides internet, cable, and phone service in the Midwest. My parents got a better total price for the same service by bundling it all together. When I look at pricing, the marginal cost of basic cable TV would be a few extra dollars per month.

I'm definitely switching away from YouTube TV, but need to decide if I should go with basic cable (which won't have everything my household desires) or Hulu.

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ObShameless reminder that https://puffer.stanford.edu remains free of charge. The site streams San Francisco affiliates and local stations of NBC/CBS/ABC/PBS/FOX/CW as part of a university study on video streaming algorithms -- it's essentially a big A/B test to try to reproduce or clarify some of the findings in the research literature. We're now posting all our data and analysis each day. Research talk here: https:…

Only downside is it is regularly overloaded during any moderately interesting sports event.

yeah "The study is limited to 500 participants simultaneously, meaning that at most 500 people are allowed to watch Puffer at a time."

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ObShameless reminder that https://puffer.stanford.edu remains free of charge. The site streams San Francisco affiliates and local stations of NBC/CBS/ABC/PBS/FOX/CW as part of a university study on video streaming algorithms -- it's essentially a big A/B test to try to reproduce or clarify some of the findings in the research literature. We're now posting all our data and analysis each day. Research talk here: https:…

Only downside is it is regularly overloaded during any moderately interesting sports event.

I guess good thing those are in short supply.

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What's more interesting to me is that Google only has ~2M YouTube TV subscribers. Perhaps there's newer metrics now. https://twitter.com/RichLightShed/status/1224454820309811202 That's nothing, and in my mind - doesn't bode well for the long-term prospects of the service. I've been a subscriber for about a year, but with the price increases, and the interface on AppleTV that seemingly wants to always show me Tennis w…

That's $1.5Bn/year in revenue for a 3-year-old product that just rebroadcasts content. How is that "nothing"?

I could've sworn I was doing something wrong with my math give your the parent comment to yours, so I'm glad I saw this -- my math was right, after all!

Re: YouTube TV sharply increases monthly subscription to $64.99

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ObShameless reminder that https://puffer.stanford.edu remains free of charge. The site streams San Francisco affiliates and local stations of NBC/CBS/ABC/PBS/FOX/CW as part of a university study on video streaming algorithms -- it's essentially a big A/B test to try to reproduce or clarify some of the findings in the research literature. We're now posting all our data and analysis each day. Research talk here: https:…

Wow that's impressive. I'm on the east coast and seeing instant buffering when changing channels.
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