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Re: Exponential Growth and Covid-19 [video]

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Post by icegreentea2 »

haunter wrote: post #18
lhl wrote: post #14

I've been tracking the coronavirus news for the past few weeks and have found https://www.reddit.com/r/covid19 to be good for tracking the latest scientific/medical publications, and https://www.reddit.com/r/coronavirus for general news. For transmission rates, this team is updating their modeling results often: https://cmmid.github.io/topics/covid19/current-patterns-tran... On twitter, @datagraver is publishing some…

Both of those subs are incredibly tinfoily and panicky. Honestly reddit is the worst. And BI is right that they are doing the same as always, just consiparcy things https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-reddit-social-pl... Also you might as well rename /r/Coronavirus/ to /r/politics2 aka fucktrump. It's the same thing over and over again

/r/coronavirus can definitely be bad on your mental health, but /r/covid19 is pretty level headed. Like ya, there are some scared people on it, but it's not very conspiracy-y.

Re: Exponential Growth and Covid-19 [video]

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Post by TeMPOraL »

nodamage wrote: post #51
haunter wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Both of those subs are incredibly tinfoily and panicky. Honestly reddit is the worst. And BI is right that they are doing the same as always, just consiparcy things https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-reddit-social-pl... Also you might as well rename /r/Coronavirus/ to /r/politics2 aka fucktrump. It's the same thing over and over again

This Business Insider article seems really pointless and vapid to me. Their criticism of reddit is they don't link to official CDC or WHO pages at the top of their search results? You might as well level the same accusation at Hacker News or any other internet forum. And the fact that Facebook and Twitter has those links does nothing to stop them from being full of misinformation themselves. I looked through /r/covid…

It is, and pulling out the marathon bombing case just shows it's a hit piece.

Social media in general, and Reddit in particular, are commoditizing news publications, and displacing them as trusted sources of information. That's IMO why there have been so many such articles coming out regularly in the past few years.

Re: Exponential Growth and Covid-19 [video]

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Post by gwright »

kohtatsu wrote: post #59
gwright wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Trump supporters saying it's all a Democrat hoax Hard to know exactly what you are referring to here but it sounds like you are spreading more misinformation. We all need to get better at communicating. I swear that half of public discussion these days is based on fictional situations and not reality. 1) Democrats accused Trump of mishandling COVID-19. 2) Trump labeled the *criticism* as another "hoax" about his pr…

WRT 1) I think the fact the CDC hasn't had enough testing capability–as well as far too strict requirements surrounding the tests, perhaps because of their inadequate capabilities—is enough of a black mark.

Sure but 3) is just bullshit that just confuses everything for no valid reason. It is distracting dangerous noise that increases the anxiety of the public for no good reason.

Re: Exponential Growth and Covid-19 [video]

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Post by TeMPOraL »

hombre_fatal wrote: post #49
tic_tac wrote: post #31

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Agreed, Reddit is cancer. Reactionary hive mind internet at its worst. One of the biggest problems with Reddit is that Americans go on boards like /r/politics or in this case /r/Coronavirus, see extreme hostility towards America and Trump and assume that this hostility is all coming from Americans themselves, when really a substantial number of Reddit users (and users elsewhere on the Internet) are not American. Not…

Reddit is clearly just self-hating Americans, mostly kids. I guess you assume no American would spend so much time writing anti-Trump comments on r/politics? I think the real issue is that you go to a place like r/politics or r/vancouver or r/bitcoin and think it's some canonical forum with some semblance of fairness but it's really just someone's little world with its own rules and agenda. But you can't simply start…

Yup. You can't think of Reddit as a single forum. A subreddit is a community. By size, shape and behavior, Reddit itself is a privately owned Web inside the public Web, with its own, centrally controlled DNS.

Re: Exponential Growth and Covid-19 [video]

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Post by nolta »

jacobolus wrote: post #42
haunter wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Both of those subs are incredibly tinfoily and panicky. Honestly reddit is the worst. And BI is right that they are doing the same as always, just consiparcy things https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-reddit-social-pl... Also you might as well rename /r/Coronavirus/ to /r/politics2 aka fucktrump. It's the same thing over and over again

Edit: here’s a Lancet Editorial “COVID-19: too little, too late?” https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6... * * * Seattle is about 2 weeks behind Lombardy. The Bay Area maybe 3 weeks behind. Everywhere in the US is going to be in that situation in 2 months at most, unless something very dramatic changes ASAP. The kinds of measures being taken in the US are grossly inadequate for this challenge:…

In the last few days Ontario has found 2 cases of Covid-19 in people who recently travelled to the US:

https://news.ontario.ca/mohltc/en/2020/03/ontario-confirms-n... https://news.ontario.ca/mohltc/en/2020/03/ontario-confirms-n...

All the other cases we've seen were related to travel to Iran, Italy, Egypt, & China IIRC.

EDIT: one was a woman who returned from Colorado on Mar 2, the other a man who returned from Las Vegas on Feb 28.

Re: Exponential Growth and Covid-19 [video]

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Post by TeMPOraL »

humaniania wrote: post #46
lhl wrote: post #14

I've been tracking the coronavirus news for the past few weeks and have found https://www.reddit.com/r/covid19 to be good for tracking the latest scientific/medical publications, and https://www.reddit.com/r/coronavirus for general news. For transmission rates, this team is updating their modeling results often: https://cmmid.github.io/topics/covid19/current-patterns-tran... On twitter, @datagraver is publishing some…

Why not get the news right from the primary source? The World Health Organization (part of the United Nations) publishes a daily situation report: https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2... Their director also has statements published regularly: https://www.who.int/dg/speeches/detail

WHO reports have stats lagging 1 to 2 days. They're definitely not the primary source.

CSSE seems to be the most up-to-date aggregate source, though their Github repo is lagging half a day behind the map at here: https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.h....

Re: Exponential Growth and Covid-19 [video]

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Post by qqqwerty »

tic_tac wrote: post #39

There are two extreme paths we can take. The first is that we do nothing, the other is that we completely lock down our society like China. While the first option would be unwise, the second would also be unwise. A complete shutdown for a disease as virulent as Covid-19 will just suppress the virus for the duration of the shutdown. Ignoring the extreme difficulty and impracticality of shutting society down for a mome…

> Many (Media, Democrats) are trying to leverage this to their political advantage

To date, most of the complaints about the current administrations' handling of COVID-19 have been about the cuts to the CDC, the history of Pence and Redfield regarding HIV, and other fact based arguments and criticisms. It is entirely possible that none of these factors had or will have a substantive impact on the spread of COVID-19. But they are still valid criticisms none the less.

In contrast, take Trump's response to the Ebola crisis[1], which was a remarkable example of fear-mongering and politiking in the face of a potential crisis.

[1]https://www.vox.com/2020/2/26/21154253/trump-ebola-tweets-co...

Re: Exponential Growth and Covid-19 [video]

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Post by maxerickson »

abootstrapper wrote: post #34
maxerickson wrote: post #13

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Why? We're a bunch of paranoid lunatics, primed to avoid each other.

False. We’re a bunch of mostly self centered individualist who don’t like being told what to do and don’t trust facts, ideas, opinions, or people that contradict our preconceived notions.

What exactly do you think "paranoid" and "lunatic" mean?

Re: Exponential Growth and Covid-19 [video]

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Post by hurrdurr2 »

gwright wrote: post #52
hurrdurr2 wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just a small sampling but most of my neighbors are retired and they think it's a MSM scare tactic to drum up views. Some say it's no worse than the flu and then you have the Trump supporters saying it's all a Democrat hoax. In CA btw.

> Trump supporters saying it's all a Democrat hoax Hard to know exactly what you are referring to here but it sounds like you are spreading more misinformation. We all need to get better at communicating. I swear that half of public discussion these days is based on fictional situations and not reality. 1) Democrats accused Trump of mishandling COVID-19. 2) Trump labeled the *criticism* as another "hoax" about his pr…

I'm just repeating what I was told when I chatted with some neighbors. Some are Trump supporters and they said it's a hoax. Anecdotal so take it as you will. Not sure why my comment warranted such a longwinded defensive reply.

Re: Exponential Growth and Covid-19 [video]

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Post by TeMPOraL »

maxerickson wrote: post #68
abootstrapper wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

False. We’re a bunch of mostly self centered individualist who don’t like being told what to do and don’t trust facts, ideas, opinions, or people that contradict our preconceived notions.

What exactly do you think "paranoid" and "lunatic" mean?

Problem is: when what authorities tell you is to distance yourself for others, a paranoid lunatic will obviously smell a conspiracy and do the exact opposite.
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