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Re: Exponential Growth and Covid-19 [video]

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Post by tic_tac »

haunter wrote: post #18
lhl wrote: post #14

I've been tracking the coronavirus news for the past few weeks and have found https://www.reddit.com/r/covid19 to be good for tracking the latest scientific/medical publications, and https://www.reddit.com/r/coronavirus for general news. For transmission rates, this team is updating their modeling results often: https://cmmid.github.io/topics/covid19/current-patterns-tran... On twitter, @datagraver is publishing some…

Both of those subs are incredibly tinfoily and panicky. Honestly reddit is the worst. And BI is right that they are doing the same as always, just consiparcy things https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-reddit-social-pl... Also you might as well rename /r/Coronavirus/ to /r/politics2 aka fucktrump. It's the same thing over and over again

Agreed, Reddit is cancer. Reactionary hive mind internet at its worst.

One of the biggest problems with Reddit is that Americans go on boards like /r/politics or in this case /r/Coronavirus, see extreme hostility towards America and Trump and assume that this hostility is all coming from Americans themselves, when really a substantial number of Reddit users (and users elsewhere on the Internet) are not American.

Not being Americans, their hostility comes more from predisposed bias against Trump and America than a careful analysis of what's best for America.

Re: Exponential Growth and Covid-19 [video]

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Post by geggam »

DailyHN wrote: post #23
geggam wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What happens when infected soul from US / other place visits china ? Is there an immunity built up in infected people or does the clock reset ? You cant quarantine the world and expect a global economy to survive

Gotta love the people that see people dying and are most concerned about the economy.

I am not worried about the economy as in I need to get rich ( Im not close) but realistically if no one is making money the impact of folks being out of work and unable to buy food starts to weigh in.

The simple fact most countries are interdependent ( see : Toilet paper) is a real issue.

Re: Exponential Growth and Covid-19 [video]

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Post by abootstrapper »

maxerickson wrote: post #13
cklaus wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

China has only flatlined because extremely aggressive social distancing. I don't see that in the US occurring.

Why? We're a bunch of paranoid lunatics, primed to avoid each other.

False. We’re a bunch of mostly self centered individualist who don’t like being told what to do and don’t trust facts, ideas, opinions, or people that contradict our preconceived notions.

Re: Exponential Growth and Covid-19 [video]

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Post by cklaus »

American Hospital Association "Best Guess Epidemiology" for #codiv19 over next 2 months:

96,000,000 infections

4,800,000 hospitalizations

1,900,000 ICU admissions

480,000 deaths

vs flu in 2019:

35,500,000 infections

490,600 hospitalizations

49,000 ICU admissions

34,200 deaths

Re: Exponential Growth and Covid-19 [video]

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Post by d0mine »

melling wrote: post #9
d0mine wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The death ratio should only increase as the medical resources are exhausted

If the curve has flatlined in China and only 20,283 remain, China should not have a further problem with resources. The rest of the world, of course, is just getting started.

If if the curve flattens for the World early, then obviously the medical resources won't be exhausted.

I don't know how long the exponential growth might continue.

Re: Exponential Growth and Covid-19 [video]

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Post by endorphone »

tic_tac wrote: post #31
haunter wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Both of those subs are incredibly tinfoily and panicky. Honestly reddit is the worst. And BI is right that they are doing the same as always, just consiparcy things https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-reddit-social-pl... Also you might as well rename /r/Coronavirus/ to /r/politics2 aka fucktrump. It's the same thing over and over again

Agreed, Reddit is cancer. Reactionary hive mind internet at its worst. One of the biggest problems with Reddit is that Americans go on boards like /r/politics or in this case /r/Coronavirus, see extreme hostility towards America and Trump and assume that this hostility is all coming from Americans themselves, when really a substantial number of Reddit users (and users elsewhere on the Internet) are not American. Not…

Reddit is 50% American, and overwhelmingly skews young. It isn't surprising that it has a "predisposed bias" against Trump: The young aren't really a key Trump demographic (Trump has a >67% unfavorability rating among those under 40).

Indeed, Trump's statist media is Fox News that has an average viewer ago of 68 years old (who, ironically, will be the bulk of the victims of COVID-19).

Though anyone with even the slightest hint of morality or intellectual sincerity has a predisposed bias against Trump. He has pushed it way beyond politics, and now it's whether you're a very stupid, terrible person or not.

Re: Exponential Growth and Covid-19 [video]

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Post by abootstrapper »

cklaus wrote: post #35

American Hospital Association "Best Guess Epidemiology" for #codiv19 over next 2 months: 96,000,000 infections 4,800,000 hospitalizations 1,900,000 ICU admissions 480,000 deaths vs flu in 2019: 35,500,000 infections 490,600 hospitalizations 49,000 ICU admissions 34,200 deaths

Source link?

Re: Exponential Growth and Covid-19 [video]

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Post by tic_tac »

There are two extreme paths we can take. The first is that we do nothing, the other is that we completely lock down our society like China.

While the first option would be unwise, the second would also be unwise.

A complete shutdown for a disease as virulent as Covid-19 will just suppress the virus for the duration of the shutdown. Ignoring the extreme difficulty and impracticality of shutting society down for a moment, recognize that the moment the shutdown ends, the virus will probably reappear and continue to spread.

What then? Another complete shutdown? When does it end?

No, the right solution is a distributed solution in which affected companies and communities deal with the virus, imposing gradual restrictions on gatherings, work, schooling etc in an organic way. Which is exactly what is happening in the US right now.

The point of all this is, what more can the US government do than it is already doing? Send the military in to shut down the highways? Hold scientists at gunpoint until they produce a vaccine?

Many (Media, Democrats) are trying to leverage this to their political advantage, but aside from small changes in approach, what exactly do they want the government to do differently?

Re: Exponential Growth and Covid-19 [video]

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Post by gizmo686 »

DailyHN wrote: post #23
geggam wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What happens when infected soul from US / other place visits china ? Is there an immunity built up in infected people or does the clock reset ? You cant quarantine the world and expect a global economy to survive

Gotta love the people that see people dying and are most concerned about the economy.

How do you think people get food, shelter, medicine, and other necessities?

The rich can wait out a downturn. It is the poor who will struggle.

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