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Re: Stadia owners on Reddit blasting Google over radio silence and lack of support

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Post by daemin »

Polylactic_acid wrote: post #51
ehsankia wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Little bit silly about how on one end people stand united with gamedevs about the poor work/life balance and excruciating crunch time, yet they will complain when a company doesn't release any update during the holidays.

I think its less about the gap but more about the fact that the product was released in a not suitable state and then left like that for 40 days. If they had released it mid year and fixed all of the issues before the holidays people would be ok with that. It gives off the vibe that this is another one of googles random side projects that no one really cares about and will be scrapped in a year. Which is extra concer…

And in this case you only get to keep the hardware you bought, not the games since they are not physical.

Though I don't think the hardware would be all that usable if the service was shut down.

Re: Stadia owners on Reddit blasting Google over radio silence and lack of support

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Post by daemin »

6gvONxR4sf7o wrote: post #40
SimeVidas wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Meanwhile on Switch eShop: 10 to 20 new games released every single week of the year (many of them mediocre, but still). When you’re a massive global video game streaming service, you’re supposed to plan ahead a bit, don’t you think. This is not a mom and pop store.

It's tough to compare a company's first few steps into gaming to the established machine that is Nintendo.

Not necessarily, because: They can already see what the other major platforms in this space are doing, and learn from it. They are already a large company that has other income with which to support this service through its initial growth. They can hire/poach people from these existing companies to help give them a kick start.

I know just saying it makes it sound easy, but responsible executives and teams should be capable of doing better.

Re: Stadia owners on Reddit blasting Google over radio silence and lack of support

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Post by ethbro »

SmirkingRevenge wrote: post #43
SimeVidas wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Meanwhile on Switch eShop: 10 to 20 new games released every single week of the year (many of them mediocre, but still). When you’re a massive global video game streaming service, you’re supposed to plan ahead a bit, don’t you think. This is not a mom and pop store.

All the consoles go through the same thing every time there's a new generation. The consoles have never been backwards compatible, each generation invalidates your previous library. And they always begin with tiny libraries. Here we are in 2020 and only now have Sony and Microsoft begun talking about backwards compatibility in future console generations.

Never is a strong word.

The initial version of the PS2 had dedicated hardware to be fully compatible with PS1 games.

Re: Stadia owners on Reddit blasting Google over radio silence and lack of support

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Post by nkrisc »

ehsankia wrote: post #47
rndmize wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're conflating two different sides of the industry (as is the parent comment.) A game dev studio is not expected to have monthly updates for any but the largest games. A store or platform, on the other hand, lives and dies by its content. Playstation Plus has a batch of free games each month for $5 a month, Xbox has something similar, Steam has sales and endless new content on the regular, Epic has given away seve…

> A store or platform, on the other hand, lives and dies by its content. I agree that content is important, but if you're talking about new games, Google doesn't have much control, the developers works on those not Google. > Playstation Plus has a batch of free games each month for $5 a month, Xbox has something similar But this isn't about the free monthy Stadia content. Stadia has been giving 2 free games the first…

> I agree that content is important, but if you're talking about new games, Google doesn't have much control

Doesn't matter, Google's gonna get the flak for it. People bought hardware and a subscription from Google. If they're not getting value from it, for whatever reason and whomever's fault, they're going to be mad at Google.

Why did Google release a platform if they didn't have enough games lined up and ready? I assume they're hoping they'll be able to weather this negative sentiment and do have games planned in the wings, but we'll see.

Re: Stadia owners on Reddit blasting Google over radio silence and lack of support

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Post by ethbro »

013a wrote: post #20
scotth wrote: post #12

I've been following this situation somewhat, and although Google's outreach has been lacking, there are signs that they're working hard behind the scenes. Apparently they have over 100 games launching this year [1], have been consistent in releasing new games with the pro subscription [2], and are delivering a number of talks at the upcoming GDC [3]. I can see why gamers are frustrated, but from my point of view the…

Hype is truly a double-edged sword, and its surprising to me that companies are so cavalier about it, especially in the gaming industry where the consumers are so brutal and unforgiving. Stadia is an amazing technology... and a fine product. Just fine. They go into marketing this thing with guns blazing, positioning it as the future to play games and the one-stop-shop, they better back that talk up hard. Stadia hasn'…

> They go into marketing this thing with guns blazing, positioning it as the future to play games and the one-stop-shop, they better back that talk up hard.

Stadia development is expected to pick back up as soon as the Google Fiber rollout is complete...

Re: Stadia owners on Reddit blasting Google over radio silence and lack of support

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Post by smolder »

013a wrote: post #20
scotth wrote: post #12

I've been following this situation somewhat, and although Google's outreach has been lacking, there are signs that they're working hard behind the scenes. Apparently they have over 100 games launching this year [1], have been consistent in releasing new games with the pro subscription [2], and are delivering a number of talks at the upcoming GDC [3]. I can see why gamers are frustrated, but from my point of view the…

Hype is truly a double-edged sword, and its surprising to me that companies are so cavalier about it, especially in the gaming industry where the consumers are so brutal and unforgiving. Stadia is an amazing technology... and a fine product. Just fine. They go into marketing this thing with guns blazing, positioning it as the future to play games and the one-stop-shop, they better back that talk up hard. Stadia hasn'…

Stadia is centralized control and even more spying on end users, which this crowd constantly complains of in other cases. Why do people want google button/key/voice logging them any time they play a game? The value proposition is crap and the input latency makes lots of games clunky, incurring a handicap on players.

It seems like a terrible product to me from a "what kind of future do we want to live in" perspective, as well as UX.

Re: Stadia owners on Reddit blasting Google over radio silence and lack of support

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Post by rasz »

SimeVidas wrote: post #34
tmpz22 wrote: post #5

1) The reddit post this article is based on is titled "Stadia has officially gone 40 days without a new game announcement/release, feature update, or real community update" [1]. Presumably the Stadia team is US-based and took a 2 week holiday during this time, meaning they didn't release right before their holiday and had nothing to deliver immediately after. Not an excuse, especially because other industry competito…

Meanwhile on Switch eShop: 10 to 20 new games released every single week of the year (many of them mediocre, but still). When you’re a massive global video game streaming service, you’re supposed to plan ahead a bit, don’t you think. This is not a mom and pop store.

They did plan ahead! The plan was to push some newfangled "world changing" product, get a promotion .. and move on in the company.

Re: Stadia owners on Reddit blasting Google over radio silence and lack of support

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Post by fulafel »

andrewstuart wrote: post #37

I'm sort of surprised anyone bought Stadia. What problem does it really solve?

It lets you play a selection of current games without buying & maintaining expensive on-prem gaming systems, and works on the go as well.

It also promises to have longevity while following latest hardware developments, without having to upgrade your pc or replace your console with this year's hw generation. Of course the uncertainty about the longevity of the Stadia service counters this somewhat.. but the model technically solves longevity which is cool.

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