Tracking prevention in Edge makes sense for Microsoft, as they already have more than enough tracking in windows itself.
Just more and more fud. I sincerely hope you're not doing this for free. Lost time.
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#62Hit hard with what? The 1% marketshare it will eventually get like the previous Edge versions?
Not if they refuse Manifest v3 and remain the only Blink browser with full uBlock Origin support.
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#63Tracking prevention in Edge makes sense for Microsoft, as they already have more than enough tracking in windows itself.
it's ridiculous. i only realize it when i install pihole and microsoft is there at #1 tracking domain
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#64Tracking prevention in Edge makes sense for Microsoft, as they already have more than enough tracking in windows itself.
That's why I think that Microsoft is walking a fine line here, blocking other people trackers while keeping their own may be considered anti-competitive. If Edge had the market share IE had in the past, that would be calling for legal trouble.
Google themselves also suffer a lot from bad actors. Many people start installing ad blockers after visiting abusive sites, and these ad blockers block the more tolerable Google ads as a collateral. For that reason, they want to introduce a built-in ad blocker in Chrome, and unsurprisingly, given their position, they are taking a lot of precautions.
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#65There are claims about Google "mistakenly" breaking Youtube etc. on Firefox. I wonder what happens if Microsoft "mistakenly" breaks Chrome and the updater? Because when these companies truly take on to each other, they do play dirty. I would prefer to watch such a fight, instead of browsers becoming non-standard. Default ad-blocking shouldn't be a thing, what's next? Browsers with default Reddit enhancement suits? Th…
Google is already doing this with Edge, too. Google Maps on Edge will give an error message, "Google Maps does not have permission to use your location," no matter how you have your permissions set. I'm very sure there will be other examples. Google very subtly breaks things intentionally on competing browsers.
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#66Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Google would be capable of transitioning to a business model that respects people's privacy. If they would want to, they could flourish under such model. Why are you so sure it's easy for Google to pivot away from their trillion dollar business model?
I would say just the opposite. Google is completely incapable of diversifying away from advertising. It still makes up 90% of their profit and they have failed to diversify - unlike Amazon, Apple, and Microsoft.
My understanding is Google wants to do exactly what I want it to do: not share any information about me with its advertisers. It can't though because Google customers demand accountability and audit ability.
If ads just showed up on the screen and didn't execute arbitrary JavaScript or phoned home without me purposefully clicking it, I like to believe I wouldn't be so adverse to ads.
If a huge part of the market can't have ads that phone home or execute arbitrary JavaScript, Google can offer slimmed down ads as a replacement.
I would welcome this change if it happens.
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#67Earlier quoted context omitted.
I would say just the opposite. Google is completely incapable of diversifying away from advertising. It still makes up 90% of their profit and they have failed to diversify - unlike Amazon, Apple, and Microsoft.
My understanding is Google wants to do exactly what I want it to do: not share any information about me with its advertisers. It can't though because Google customers demand accountability and audit ability. If ads just showed up on the screen and didn't execute arbitrary JavaScript or phoned home without me purposefully clicking it, I like to believe I wouldn't be so adverse to ads. If a huge part of the market can'…
I don’t believe that Google shares information with advertisers does it? I always thought that advertisers tell Google who they want to target but Google doesn’t share information back?
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#68Does it block trackers for Bing display network ads or not?
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#69Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do you think they’re trying to monopolise user data to sell to advertisers?
targeting ads is only one teeny tiny use case for user data. Building general AI is a race and the more user data you have the faster your AI will learn. You definitely want to limit the amount of data your competitors have.
The vast majority of the revenue for half of the biggest tech companies is one teeny use case?
It's the biggest one, followed by company specific recommendation engines.
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#70There are claims about Google "mistakenly" breaking Youtube etc. on Firefox. I wonder what happens if Microsoft "mistakenly" breaks Chrome and the updater? Because when these companies truly take on to each other, they do play dirty. I would prefer to watch such a fight, instead of browsers becoming non-standard. Default ad-blocking shouldn't be a thing, what's next? Browsers with default Reddit enhancement suits? Th…
Google is already doing this with Edge, too. Google Maps on Edge will give an error message, "Google Maps does not have permission to use your location," no matter how you have your permissions set. I'm very sure there will be other examples. Google very subtly breaks things intentionally on competing browsers.