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Edge vs. Chrome: Microsoft's Tracking Prevention Hits Google the Hardest

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Re: Edge vs. Chrome: Microsoft's Tracking Prevention Hits Google the Hardest

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There are claims about Google "mistakenly" breaking Youtube etc. on Firefox. I wonder what happens if Microsoft "mistakenly" breaks Chrome and the updater? Because when these companies truly take on to each other, they do play dirty. I would prefer to watch such a fight, instead of browsers becoming non-standard. Default ad-blocking shouldn't be a thing, what's next? Browsers with default Reddit enhancement suits? Th…

Were you also opposed to browser vendors blocking pop up windows and auto playing video and sound?

Re: Edge vs. Chrome: Microsoft's Tracking Prevention Hits Google the Hardest

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post #30

Chromium-based Edge will curb abuses by both Google and Microsoft. Now we can use Edge when using Google's services such as Gmail, and Chrome when using Microsoft's services. This will prevent abuses such as Chrome logging you into the browser itself when you log into Gmail, thereby enhancing their surveillance. Incidentally, Chrome had a longstanding bug where the setting that prevents Chrome logging you into the br…

> Is it a coincidence that this got fixed just weeks before Chromium-based Edge is due to be released? The Venn-diagram of people that care about this bug and care about the new Edge can't be much bigger than, well, you . So I'd actually go with "coincidence" here.

That's an astonishing statement. Nobody cares about having an alternate browser? Nobody cares about Chrome's abuses such as logging you into the browser when you log into Gmail? Why did Chrome add the ability to disable this feature then?

Re: Edge vs. Chrome: Microsoft's Tracking Prevention Hits Google the Hardest

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Tracking prevention in Edge makes sense for Microsoft, as they already have more than enough tracking in windows itself.

Do you think they’re trying to monopolise user data to sell to advertisers?

Well, I don't think there is any reason why MSFT wouldn't dream that, just that they don't have a magic wand to do that. They do however are trying to add more and more tracking to Windows, which is what they do control.

Re: Edge vs. Chrome: Microsoft's Tracking Prevention Hits Google the Hardest

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post #30

Chromium-based Edge will curb abuses by both Google and Microsoft. Now we can use Edge when using Google's services such as Gmail, and Chrome when using Microsoft's services. This will prevent abuses such as Chrome logging you into the browser itself when you log into Gmail, thereby enhancing their surveillance. Incidentally, Chrome had a longstanding bug where the setting that prevents Chrome logging you into the br…

> Is it a coincidence that this got fixed just weeks before Chromium-based Edge is due to be released? The Venn-diagram of people that care about this bug and care about the new Edge can't be much bigger than, well, you . So I'd actually go with "coincidence" here.

I love how someone with 12000+ points just gets to be a dick on hackernews with no repercussions.

Matt, you should read the Guidelines: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Dang, you should police this.

Also feel free to delete my comment when something is done, because my comment also doesn't contribute to the conversation.

Re: Edge vs. Chrome: Microsoft's Tracking Prevention Hits Google the Hardest

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post #3

Tracking prevention in Edge makes sense for Microsoft, as they already have more than enough tracking in windows itself.

Do you think they’re trying to monopolise user data to sell to advertisers?

targeting ads is only one teeny tiny use case for user data. Building general AI is a race and the more user data you have the faster your AI will learn. You definitely want to limit the amount of data your competitors have.

Re: Edge vs. Chrome: Microsoft's Tracking Prevention Hits Google the Hardest

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google has been watering down and further downplaying their motto of “Don’t be evil” for several years now. It’s hard to build the panopticon of infrastructure ripe for the subjugation of all humanity and not believe you’re doing evil.

I briefly worked for google this year, and “don’t be evil” doesn’t appear in any of their on-boarding materials (anymore at least).

"don't be evil" is still in official code of conduct.
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