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Re: Visual Studio online available for public preview

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Post by lostintangent » Mon, Nov 04, 2019, 4:07 PM UTC

sosuke wrote: post #10

lostintangent wrote: post #6

Hey All! I’m a PM on the Visual Studio Online team (as well as Live Share and IntelliCode), and we’re extremely excited to have more developers try out the product. Our goal is to dramatically reduce the cost of setup/onboarding, enable better team/classroom collaboration, and further support remote development. We believe that having on-demand, cloud-powered dev environments, that are accessible from VS Code and the…

If you have a moment could you send me an email? Mine is in my profile. I'd love to try out this product but there is something that has prevented me from using it. I'm hoping you might be able to get me to the right help I need.

Just emailed you!

Re: Visual Studio online available for public preview

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Post by msoad » Mon, Nov 04, 2019, 4:08 PM UTC

lostintangent wrote: post #6

Hey All! I’m a PM on the Visual Studio Online team (as well as Live Share and IntelliCode), and we’re extremely excited to have more developers try out the product. Our goal is to dramatically reduce the cost of setup/onboarding, enable better team/classroom collaboration, and further support remote development. We believe that having on-demand, cloud-powered dev environments, that are accessible from VS Code and the…

Why this doesn't work with Github login? Why all this Azure/Microsoft login is required?

This could be an immediate hit if I could click on a button in Github to open that repo in it with the environment all setup.

Re: Visual Studio online available for public preview

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Post by lostintangent » Mon, Nov 04, 2019, 4:10 PM UTC

amq wrote: post #16

I'm missing two things: - docker-compose support - ability to run multiple services from different repos

Thanks for the feedback! Docker Compose support is on our roadmap, and you can track progress of it here: https://github.com/MicrosoftDocs/vsonline/issues/35. If you could upvote that issue, that would be much appreciated!

Re: Visual Studio online available for public preview

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Post by nshm » Mon, Nov 04, 2019, 4:10 PM UTC

So, VS Express 2010 was 500Mb, then VS 2019 Express required 11 Gb for installation. When it has grown to 100Gb they decided to move it in the cloud.

I said thank you and compiled everything with MINGW on Linux. Apt installed mingw in 30 seconds. And no pain with perl script to create VS solutions, import and configure them, same cmake build works just fine.

Re: Visual Studio online available for public preview

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Post by Ididntdothis » Mon, Nov 04, 2019, 4:13 PM UTC

lobo42 wrote: post #46

bouke wrote: post #2

What is the use case for a hosted Visual Studio Code?

The real killer app is not using an IDE in the browser but using disposable, automated dev environments. I've written a blog post about: https://dev.to/svenefftinge/continuous-dev-environments-the-... (Disclaimer: I work on gitpod.io which is similar to Visual Studio Online)

I would like that. My work machine just crashed so I had to reimage it and then install all dev tools. Getting all the SQL server installs, Visual studio and a lot of other tools and their configuration back takes several days. It would be nice if we could set up a template for a full dev environment that everybody can use. I know a lot of companies have that but you need management to understand the issue which is often not the case.

Re: Visual Studio online available for public preview

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Post by teddyuk » Mon, Nov 04, 2019, 4:13 PM UTC

lostintangent wrote: post #37

charles_f wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Simple observation that VSO used to be the name of what is today Azure Devops, which is at its 3rd rename (vsts, ado). Reusing the name of a past product for a new product that is not entirely related is pretty confusing.

Interestingly enough, many people thought the original VSO was an online web IDE. And so in this case, we decided that it made sense to re-purpose the brand for a product that met many people’s expectations. Visual Studio Online: This time, it’s for real!

"VSO" is a pretty poor search experience:

https://www.google.com/search?q=vso

vs code doesn't appear anywhere, however you would have totally owned this:

https://www.google.com/?q=vs+code+online

Re: Visual Studio online available for public preview

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Post by teddyuk » Mon, Nov 04, 2019, 4:14 PM UTC

OutsmartDan wrote: post #12

bouke wrote: post #2

What is the use case for a hosted Visual Studio Code?

Imagine you are in a cave, for no apparent reason, and your computer is no where to be found. The only computer there is a n old school terminal that is somehow running IE11. Your colleague commits something with tabs instead of spaces and you get the notification on your phone. Now you can easily login to VSCode online to re-indent everything with spaces, commit and push it back up, all through your web browser.

in this cave you need internet access :)

Re: Visual Studio online available for public preview

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Post by tluyben2 » Mon, Nov 04, 2019, 4:16 PM UTC

kkarakk wrote: post #59

tluyben2 wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep, I use Remotix on a remote mac on my ipad pro. It works well mostly . When the bandwidth is not sufficient, it really drives one up a wall ofcourse...

When you spend 1000s of dollars to get the dev experience we had at the dawn of the age of computing lol

Yes :) Isn't modern computing excellent?

One quite significant difference though; portability.

Also not quite $1000s; $800 for the ipad (and a $400 one would do fine) and $20/mo for the mac. Beats a mbp most of the time in a modern 4g/wifi environment. Ofcourse there are many caveats; embedded programming, game programming, mobile app testing etc. But I still do about 60-70% (depending) on it; it's great for building / testing / deploying API's and some months that's all I do.

Re: Visual Studio online available for public preview

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Post by lostintangent » Mon, Nov 04, 2019, 4:22 PM UTC

msoad wrote: post #62

lostintangent wrote: post #6

Hey All! I’m a PM on the Visual Studio Online team (as well as Live Share and IntelliCode), and we’re extremely excited to have more developers try out the product. Our goal is to dramatically reduce the cost of setup/onboarding, enable better team/classroom collaboration, and further support remote development. We believe that having on-demand, cloud-powered dev environments, that are accessible from VS Code and the…

Why this doesn't work with Github login? Why all this Azure/Microsoft login is required? This could be an immediate hit if I could click on a button in Github to open that repo in it with the environment all setup.

Thanks for the feedback! We definitely want to make onboarding to a GitHub repo as simple as possible. This is something we’ll be looking to gather feedback on from the community, so stay tuned as we iterate rapidly in the coming months.

Re: Visual Studio online available for public preview

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Post by joecot » Mon, Nov 04, 2019, 4:23 PM UTC

lostintangent wrote: post #6

Hey All! I’m a PM on the Visual Studio Online team (as well as Live Share and IntelliCode), and we’re extremely excited to have more developers try out the product. Our goal is to dramatically reduce the cost of setup/onboarding, enable better team/classroom collaboration, and further support remote development. We believe that having on-demand, cloud-powered dev environments, that are accessible from VS Code and the…

Is there documentation somewhere for the self-hosted environment option, which according to the product landing page and pricing page is no cost? I'm guessing the flow there is to use VSCode through the online site, but give ssh credentials to one of your servers that's running the Remote SSH VSCode environment. But once I go to Create an Environment, there's no option for a self-hosted one.