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Re: 'One Ring' Phone Scam

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Post by throwawayjava »

spectramax wrote: post #8

I feel like if FCC/Telephone providers don't fix this soon, traditional cell phones will become unreliable and we will need to adopt a new system or just use existing framework (facetime, whatsapp, etc.). If every cell phone has LTE and internet connection, why the fuck do we need traditional cell phone number? I never use it except for calling my pharmacy, customer support or restaurants/shops. All conversations wit…

> we will need to adopt a new system or just use existing framework (facetime, whatsapp, etc.).

I already use white lists -- I simply don't answer the phone if the person isn't in my contacts list and I'm not expecting a call from an unknown number. I assume this is pretty common practice.

> If every cell phone has LTE and internet connection, why the fuck do we need traditional cell phone number?

I almost never have LTE or even mobile data of any kind when I'm outside of cities (for a liberal definition of city).

> Also, why can't cell phone providers use same spam filtering techniques used in email filters?

Because spam filters rely on contents in addition to meta-data. You can't pick up the phone and listen to the contents for a few minutes.

Re: 'One Ring' Phone Scam

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Post by kumarharsh »

reaperducer wrote: post #49

I wonder if the solution is remarkably simple: Make phone calls expensive again. Get rid of unlimited/free/super-cheap rates and make all callers pay by the minute again. Especially inbound international calls. Let people who want free communication use FaceTime and SMS and Email and whatnot. But make phone calls expensive enough that you know if someone is paying to call you it must be important. I got my first docu…

Yes, because Nokia 3310 has FaceTime.

Re: 'One Ring' Phone Scam

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Post by paul7986 »

Another trick these spammers are pulling is prompting you to search the number on Google and you clicking thru to a malware infested site.

The phone system we once knew needs to be obliterated!

Re: 'One Ring' Phone Scam

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Post by khazhoux »

Similarly, I don't understand why people answer the front door when they can hear or see (through peephole or Ring) that it's a stranger. I don't need your magazines, your house-painting services, your church, or whatever else. If you're lost and looking for your friend's house you're supposed to be at, sorry I'm not gonna be able to help you anyway.

Re: 'One Ring' Phone Scam

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Post by throwawayjava »

Brajeshwar wrote: post #26

I started with an experiment about a year back and now I've practically stopped answering phone calls. My phone responses are now async. Just like an email, I look up the missed calls list once a while and call back if I know someone or was expecting a call from a particular number. The phone is kept silent at all times and is on DND mode from the first minute of the day to the last. The only call that passes through…

...do you have kids?

Re: 'One Ring' Phone Scam

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Post by URSpider94 »

shereadsthenews wrote: post #5

I can’t imagine why anyone ever answers the phone. I get at least ten robocalls every weekday. I don’t ever look at my voicemail and I haven’t answered a call in ages. Edit: I know I’m not alone because CNN just released a poll with no responses from people under the age of fifty, because they couldn’t reach enough of them by phone.

If you’re talking about the CNN poll on Democratic Presidential candidates, then that’s a colossal mis-statement of the facts. They definitely did have people under 50 in the poll. There was a Facebook post making the rounds that took a single chart from the methodology statement and claimed that nobody under 50 was polled, incorrectly. I encourage you to read the full polling statement, available online, to see that’s not the case.

All of that said, yes, pollsters do have to do more work to survey younger people. They have recently added cell phones to their call lists, since land line phones are going the way of the dodo.

Re: 'One Ring' Phone Scam

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Post by mattkrause »

droithomme wrote: post #60
shereadsthenews wrote: post #5

I can’t imagine why anyone ever answers the phone. I get at least ten robocalls every weekday. I don’t ever look at my voicemail and I haven’t answered a call in ages. Edit: I know I’m not alone because CNN just released a poll with no responses from people under the age of fifty, because they couldn’t reach enough of them by phone.

> I can’t imagine why anyone ever answers the phone. I get at least ten robocalls every weekday. I answer the phone all the time and it's always someone I know. I do not have a caller id display. Here's how I managed that. Only 4 people know my real phone number and are under orders not to add it to any digital address book. My phone number is registered to an alias. I pay for my phone using cash. My area code is in…

How do you get--and keep--a job? Have friends? Make medical appointments? Order pizza?

Re: 'One Ring' Phone Scam

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Post by URSpider94 »

spectramax wrote: post #8

I feel like if FCC/Telephone providers don't fix this soon, traditional cell phones will become unreliable and we will need to adopt a new system or just use existing framework (facetime, whatsapp, etc.). If every cell phone has LTE and internet connection, why the fuck do we need traditional cell phone number? I never use it except for calling my pharmacy, customer support or restaurants/shops. All conversations wit…

On spam filtering: the public telephone network transmits almost zero data on a call - the only header is the originating number, which can be un-traceably spoofed at the originator. There is no embedded message data (that would be the call itself). So there’s literally no valid data to filter spam on, unless the spam caller is chivalrous enough to use their legit caller ID.

I would also bet that there are regulations that require phone providers to complete all calls that are presented to them.

My provider, T Mobile, does overwrite the caller ID with “Scam Likely” for what they believe to be telemarketing calls, which is probably the best they can do until we implement a standard that authenticates the origination ID of calls.

Re: 'One Ring' Phone Scam

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Post by busymom0 »

viraptor wrote: post #57
busymom0 wrote: post #2

Scammers are getting more and more sophisticated now a days. It seems like most of these scam calls are a result of the ability to spoof phone numbers. Spoofing phone numbers does have legitimate purposes (for example a phone number from a customer service company is able to use their company phone number as the caller ID) but these scammers seem to abuse this. It's quite similar to how SMTP for emails allows the "Fr…

> allow users to be able to see the "Real" underlying phone number There are many cases where people will find it unacceptable. You don't want someone to dial directly to someone's desk at a corporation rather than front desk. You don't want someone to call a doctor on their private phone (they call out via practice's number from the road). Etc. You can't solve this issue by providing the two number. It's only solvab…

> You don't want someone to dial directly to someone's desk at a corporation rather than front desk.

Couldn't this also be said about emails from companies? Similar to how they have the "donotreply" emails, can't they also have "donotdial" phone numbers?

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