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Mystery Missile Launch Seen off California Coast

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Re: Mystery Missile Launch Seen off California Coast

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post #43

The fact that the US military response was 'nope, wasn't us' instead of 'oh my fucking god can you believe somebody just fired a missile off the coast of LA!' pretty much tells me it was them.

Given how close to land it was and the time it was fired (just approaching the peak of the news cycle) certainly points to a publicity stunt of some sort.

Re: Mystery Missile Launch Seen off California Coast

#63
post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If it is a missile, then clearly a group of people with a boat should go and recover whatever it is. Since the military denies that they own it, then it seems to be abandoned property. Surely someone would be interested in buying the remains of it for the technology. Since the military doesn't own it, then they can't really say anything about you selling/reverse engineering/posting online abandoned property that's pr…

> Surely someone would be interested in buying the remains of it for the technology. ...unless it, say, exploded. Personally, I wouldn't want to pick up an unexploded missile anyway; there'd be no way to know whether it didn't explode because it doesn't have a warhead, or just hasn't exploded yet.

I'd really hope that (if it was the US Military) that they wouldn't shoot live weaponry like that on US territory. Sounds like a great lawsuit- although not one that I'd want the damages (death, harm) originally from.

Re: Mystery Missile Launch Seen off California Coast

#64
My dad fired a Minuteman II from Vandenberg AFB (just North of LA) into the ocean in the late 70's. I'd be surprised if the Navy didn't do the same, and you probably don't want to do it outside of your own territorial waters unless it's a large naval exercise.

Re: Mystery Missile Launch Seen off California Coast

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post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Surely someone would be interested in buying the remains of it for the technology. ...unless it, say, exploded. Personally, I wouldn't want to pick up an unexploded missile anyway; there'd be no way to know whether it didn't explode because it doesn't have a warhead, or just hasn't exploded yet.

I'd really hope that (if it was the US Military) that they wouldn't shoot live weaponry like that on US territory. Sounds like a great lawsuit- although not one that I'd want the damages (death, harm) originally from.

Actually, that happens all the time. There are many live fire ranges for planes, artillery, etc. scattered across the US. No reason the Navy wouldn't light a few off from a sub.

Re: Mystery Missile Launch Seen off California Coast

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post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd really hope that (if it was the US Military) that they wouldn't shoot live weaponry like that on US territory. Sounds like a great lawsuit- although not one that I'd want the damages (death, harm) originally from.

Actually, that happens all the time. There are many live fire ranges for planes, artillery, etc. scattered across the US. No reason the Navy wouldn't light a few off from a sub.

There isn't a reason that the military can't test weaponry, they just usually do it in quarantined areas or with notice to the public.

Re: Mystery Missile Launch Seen off California Coast

#67
post #41

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I don't think any country is stupid enough to 'show off' missiles that near to the USA. Well, there's North Korea but the rocket didn't explode.

They might be dumb enough, but I'd wager all the money in my wallet that they don't they have any boomers.

As much of a horrible, tragic joke as the KWP and its Dear Leader are, I tend to assume a lot of the highest-ranking officials there know their limits, and, despite the daily charade each of them lives, the smarter ones wouldn't actually allow such an act to occur.

Of course, I could be wrong.

Re: Mystery Missile Launch Seen off California Coast

#68
It's probably just airplane contrails stretching from the horizon. If it were a missile, then it'd be a bit surprising that the FAA isn't aware of any unusually fast moving objects in the area based on their radar replays:

http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/11/09/california.contrails/index....

Re: Mystery Missile Launch Seen off California Coast

#69
post #43

The fact that the US military response was 'nope, wasn't us' instead of 'oh my fucking god can you believe somebody just fired a missile off the coast of LA!' pretty much tells me it was them.

Standard military exercise, people. Nothing to see here. Move along, move along.

Re: Mystery Missile Launch Seen off California Coast

#70
post #6

Does anyone know what the precision of these missiles are? I don't suppose they could be used for precision strikes in e.g. Afghanistan, or could they?

ICBMs are reasonably accurate - a couple dozen meters - but there are far, far better options. There are already plenty of airborne/seaborne cruise missiles and guided bombs in the region, with nearly pinpoint accuracy and much faster time-on-target. Much cheaper and less likely to start a nuclear war with Russia, too. I don't think anyone knows the accuracy of this particular missile because no one seems to know who…

Indeed, there are no conventionally-armed ICBMs or SLBMs, for precisely this "likely to start a nuclear war" reason.
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