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Audiophiles in Japan Are Installing Their Own Power Poles

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Re: Audiophiles in Japan Are Installing Their Own Power Poles

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The thing is, that power upgrade is likely much more meaningful than the $60K amplifier or the stupid gold cables. Clean power + $399.99 amplifier > dirty power + $60K amp.

A $60k amp should have a phenomenal PSRR, making power quality irrelevant. Then the amp quality becomes the differentiating factor, and one would hope that a $60k amp sounds better than a $399.99 amp.

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> he realized that electromagnetic interference from his neighbors’ appliances was propagating through their shared power lines, reducing the quality of the sound he was getting. This actually seems a lot more reasonable to me than the monster cable level of absurdity audiophiles are famous for. When I last visited family my sister's home's electricity exhibited all sorts of overload artifacts. Her lights would dim w…

Did they check your sisters electricity meter? We had similar issues here. Random light flickers/dimming, electrical devices shorting out and such. All tests in house returned with nothing wrong yet we were having issues. Electric company sent someone out and they got the same results inside as we did. Not deterred they next checked the line into the residence and it was good too. Eventually they tracked the issue to…

They claimed to have checked 'everything', but from what I saw they did nothing.

I wouldn't expect her meter to be responsible for dimming lights when the neighbor increases the load though. There didn't seem to be any problems related to loads generated within her home, which I would expect to be a problem when the meter's the culprit.

It just seemed to me like they had something inadequate in common between the homes, maybe a deteriorated transformer or bad connection. They don't seem motivated to do anything until the power is completely off, monopolies aren't known to prioritize customer service.

Re: Audiophiles in Japan Are Installing Their Own Power Poles

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or, with less insanity, DC powered equipment running from batteries. Which is still pretty insane. A good quality PSU should be able to tolerate quite a lot of noise. And power conditioners are already a thing.

Yeah, this is what I was thinking. Why not just install a solar roof and a Tesla Powerwall? Way-ass cheaper and a lot more benefit.

I had the Tesla guys out the day after xmas doing the survey for the roof! Looking forward to power off the grid (PGE has 15 outages this year). For my audio equipment I did the sane thing an used a good PDU. 40K for a power pole is silly money for no really use. I have a reasonably priced tube amp, speakers and record player. There is some point where I just cannot hear the difference. This is stuff is here is just freaking stupid level of money.

Re: Audiophiles in Japan Are Installing Their Own Power Poles

#64

I don't understand this type of audiophiles. I also have a fairly high end, vintage audio system at home, but I'd never do anything like that in the name of audio quality. There's a quote I love about these people: A normal person uses the audio system to listen music, while an audiophile uses music to listen to his audio system.

That's a very apt quote. The way I look at things like this is: Do recording studios go to the same lengths? After all, if the effect is real, and the studio didn't do something to mitigate it, then it's going to be on the track regardless of what you do in playback at home. Much more so, even, because of the gain stages involved when recording a microphone signal.

(Spoiler alert: Recording studios do not install their own power poles. What they do, though, is install isolated ground circuits.)

Re: Audiophiles in Japan Are Installing Their Own Power Poles

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post #3

When I'm playing music on my stereo from my PC through USB, turning off the lights on my bathroom on the other side of the wall will momentarily kill my USB driver and as a result Spotify stops working. Electromagnetic interference is no joke.

I had an old Dell laptop where I could "hear" an external USB hard drive spinning up in my headphones, but only if it was connected to a USB port on the same side of the laptop as the audio jack.

Dell is terrible about this; On my last 2 workstations I could hear my mouse moving if I plugged my mouse into the USB port next to the headphone jack.

Re: Audiophiles in Japan Are Installing Their Own Power Poles

#70

I don't understand this type of audiophiles. I also have a fairly high end, vintage audio system at home, but I'd never do anything like that in the name of audio quality. There's a quote I love about these people: A normal person uses the audio system to listen music, while an audiophile uses music to listen to his audio system.

One of the things I truly will never understand about "Audiophiles" is their willingness to spend money on products that are, from a technical basis, indisputably categorized as snake oil. For instance:

https://www.amazon.com/AudioQuest-Diamond-feet-Braided-Cable...

It's an HDMI cable! The video signal has CRC in it and is packetized, it's either going to make it or it isn't. The quality of video delivered at, for instance, 2160p 60fps 10bit color to an expensive 80" 4K TV is going to be literally indistinguishable from the same video delivered by a $16 Amazon house brand HDMI cable.

Or this, it's a $340 cable for 1000BaseT Ethernet:

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/07/gallery-we-tear-apar...

People actually make the claim that their FLAC "sounds warmer" when transferred through this. How, exactly?

That's not enough? How about the $10,0000 1000BaseT Ethernet cable? https://arstechnica.com/staff/2015/02/to-the-audiophile-this...

I can sort of understand methodology and expensive equipment modifications to separate AC power from amplifiers, and shield AC power lines and such, keep AC power runs away from speaker wires, etc. That has at least some basis in technological reality.

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