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Re: Leave Gmail in 10 steps

#61

Which other emailer has threads, snooze, and tabs? (need all of those really; hard to move without them) I do hate that I can't just pay for gmail and avoid the crappy ads...

> threads Threads have been supported since, well, decades (message-id, In-Reply-To). Most modern mail clients support displaying messages in thread format. > snooze I originally missed snoozing, but now I just create a task any time I need to address something, or tag/flag it for follow-up. > tabs I'm not sure what this is. Can you explain? > I do hate that I can't just pay for gmail and avoid the crappy ads Just sh…

As another person mentioned, your email contents aren't used to target ads, and you can pay for gsuite.

Re: Leave Gmail in 10 steps

#62

> In exchange for free mails, would you let your postman open your letters, read them, and insert ads related to their contents? Note that this is not the case anymore: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/23/technology/gmail-ads.html We never did that for G Suite, but with this announcement we also stopped doing it for consumer. Disclaimer: Googler working on Gmail. Please stay :-)

I think the author's advice is more aligned with moving away from Google products in general. See step 10 of his list. Although he does contradict himself by admitting he will stick with Maps and Docs.

His article is basically an ad for Fastmail. Whether he intended that or not, it's the impression I get. Fastmail costs about the same as G-Suite, but with less features, so it will take some will power for people to adopt his 10 step program.

Re: Leave Gmail in 10 steps

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post #44

If you have Gmail click this link, it is an eye opener: https://myaccount.google.com/purchases Google knows every online purchase you ever made, every line item, the price you paid, the address it was delivered to, and so on. Keep in mind that Facebook and Google also combine this data with offline data about you purchased from other companies, to complete the picture. UPDATE: Here's an example of Google purchasing d…

I've checked https://myaccount.google.com/purchases "You don't have any purchases"

Same here.

Re: Leave Gmail in 10 steps

#65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you had success with 2 time zones for the same event? I know there's a setting to enable it, but I haven't had success.

My fastmail calendar experiences: - timezone support is great and an explicit feature. You can pick the time zone when adding events and there is a dropdown at the top to view the calendar in the respective selected timezone. - you can scroll the calendar view flexibly and not just switch from month to month. You can for example scroll to see half of previous and half of current month. This fills me with so much joy…

Does it allow to omit timezone for an event so it always shows at the same time? It drives me crazy when I plan a trip to a different timezone that Google always shifts the times when I am there.

Re: Leave Gmail in 10 steps

#66
post #38

I have no complaints with Fastmail, great experience. Android mail clients however - I really wish K-9 Mail felt more modern, it's perfectly usable but the ancient UI makes it less nice to use.

I've just switched from gmail to fastmail, and I'm not very impressed with Fastmail's iOS app (it's pretty slow to start / open / retrieve emails) or the lack of offline support it has.

TBH, other than the annoying ability to too easily swipe emails left and expose the Archive green button, I really liked the Gmail app - it was extremely fast and easy to use.

Anyone have any suggestions on a mail client for iOS? I can use the Apple one (and am doing currently), but I don't really get on with it for some reason...

Re: Leave Gmail in 10 steps

#67

> In exchange for free mails, would you let your postman open your letters, read them, and insert ads related to their contents? Note that this is not the case anymore: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/23/technology/gmail-ads.html We never did that for G Suite, but with this announcement we also stopped doing it for consumer. Disclaimer: Googler working on Gmail. Please stay :-)

maybe fix your garbage email client?

http://github.com/dominictarr/your-web-app-is-bloated

Re: Leave Gmail in 10 steps

#68

> In exchange for free mails, would you let your postman open your letters, read them, and insert ads related to their contents? Note that this is not the case anymore: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/23/technology/gmail-ads.html We never did that for G Suite, but with this announcement we also stopped doing it for consumer. Disclaimer: Googler working on Gmail. Please stay :-)

I don't mean to hijack this thread, but I wonder: from my perspective, it seems that the trends in gmail have been towards a bulkier, slower design. And I hear tech friends complain similarly.

How does the Gmail team feel about it? It might be that the team thought that a heavier page with a mighty footprint delivers an overall better product. Or perhaps the team has an entirely different view?

Re: Leave Gmail in 10 steps

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post #67

> In exchange for free mails, would you let your postman open your letters, read them, and insert ads related to their contents? Note that this is not the case anymore: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/23/technology/gmail-ads.html We never did that for G Suite, but with this announcement we also stopped doing it for consumer. Disclaimer: Googler working on Gmail. Please stay :-)

maybe fix your garbage email client? http://github.com/dominictarr/your-web-app-is-bloated

That's why I use the basic html version of gmail. It loads instantly. Going to the new one is agony.

Re: Leave Gmail in 10 steps

#70

> First, I strongly suggest you buy a domain name, so that you really own your mail address Any opinions on that? I did so years ago (mostly for the reason of being independent of a mail provider) but meanwhile I realized you never "own" a domain. It's always just rented. It would be bad if someone gets in control of my domain so I just hope this won't happen before I'm dead... And even then it could be bad if it hap…

At $10/year it would cost $800 for your lifetime. Not too shabby to put control in your hands

More like $10 a year for the domain and $20/mo or more for the actual email hosting and provider.
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