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Netflix Is Forcing Hollywood into a Talent War

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Re: Netflix Is Forcing Hollywood into a Talent War

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first time in a long long time. Perhaps it will improve quality. Yay netflix!

It seems to happen regularly: First there were only the major studios, which each controlled their own talent from directors to actors. Then the talent became independent of the studios (I don't know when or how that happened). Then TV, then HBO and independent studios, then cable TV with hundreds of channels needing content, then streaming and also the infinite channels of the Internet, including YouTube and Twitch stars.

Re: Netflix Is Forcing Hollywood into a Talent War

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Maniac is a prestige show.

I'm 4 episodes in and I still don't know what the show is about. It seems like its trying hard to channel some kind of weird, blade runner light vibes, but its doing a pretty bad job. Honestly if it didn't have some name brands in it (Jonah Hill and Emma Stone), I don't think it would getting the attention that it is.

It's definitely a show that unfolds in a lot of directions and that doesn't make it easy to zero in on a predictable narrative. Personally, I like that it managed to do that -- while still actually having a narrative arc and sense the writers had done their homework, unlike, say, Lost and Twin Peaks, which are probably two reasonable analogues.

Also, like a lot of character dramas, the most direct "about" is your investment in what happens to/between the characters. But I think you could fairly say the show is an exploration of how we come to grips with limited control over our minds and emotions.

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I wish Netflix would force HBO Go and Amazon Prime Video into an UX war. It drives me crazy how bad the player and the general experience are on these 2 services. You can’t even pause with the space bar on HBO.

I could not disagree more. Prime Video is by far the best user experience for me, and Netflix is by far the worst. I can't stand how Netflix displays related results when they don't actually have a particular result in stock. I cannot stand the auto-start feature where if you're browsing and idle too long on one item, it will start playing a trailer or synopsis. The sideways scroll under different heading is horrible…

Ok. Maybe GP should have said UI instead of UX, but still, the spacebar to pause is a bigger deal for me that everything you mention.

It's like not having the light in your fridge go on when you open the door. It's not important for the actual purpose of the thing but it is something one has come to expect.

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Given the quality of big budget films like The Last Jedi and The Predator, I would say they have attacked the wrong target. Or maybe the battle has already been won.

The Last Jedi was pretty pretty good to me.

It's hard to forgive throwing out all the well-explored material in the old Expanded Universe for... this mess.

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Ok, its not bad. Its dreadful.

It's a great action flick to go see if you are bored on a Saturday night. It's a horrible Star Wars film.

But "a great action flick to go see if you are bored on a Saturday night" is what a Star Wars film is supposed to be. The franchise has never aspired to be anything else.

And I'd rather they at least take some risks than continue to regurgitate the OT. If you ignore all of the nonsense from redpillers about SJWs and Kathleen Kennedy turning it into anti-male propaganda, I feel like many of the the remaining criticisms of the film, while subjectively legitimate, can be applied in general to the other films as well.

Re: Netflix Is Forcing Hollywood into a Talent War

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I wish Netflix would force HBO Go and Amazon Prime Video into an UX war. It drives me crazy how bad the player and the general experience are on these 2 services. You can’t even pause with the space bar on HBO.

I could not disagree more. Prime Video is by far the best user experience for me, and Netflix is by far the worst. I can't stand how Netflix displays related results when they don't actually have a particular result in stock. I cannot stand the auto-start feature where if you're browsing and idle too long on one item, it will start playing a trailer or synopsis. The sideways scroll under different heading is horrible…

Also if you start a show and stop in the middle because it is terrible, netflix will suggest it back to you for months and add it to your interest. I wish there was a "this thing sucks" button.

Re: Netflix Is Forcing Hollywood into a Talent War

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I wish Netflix would force HBO Go and Amazon Prime Video into an UX war. It drives me crazy how bad the player and the general experience are on these 2 services. You can’t even pause with the space bar on HBO.

I could not disagree more. Prime Video is by far the best user experience for me, and Netflix is by far the worst. I can't stand how Netflix displays related results when they don't actually have a particular result in stock. I cannot stand the auto-start feature where if you're browsing and idle too long on one item, it will start playing a trailer or synopsis. The sideways scroll under different heading is horrible…

Everyone knows that Amazon has hands down the absolute worst streaming video experience. Just because you have a very specific search use case does not change that fact.

Talk about cheaply done streaming -- apparently sticking a retail UI meant for shopping for chairs and peanut butter on top of videos is premium to you?

Re: Netflix Is Forcing Hollywood into a Talent War

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I wish Netflix would force HBO Go and Amazon Prime Video into an UX war. It drives me crazy how bad the player and the general experience are on these 2 services. You can’t even pause with the space bar on HBO.

I wish the opposite. I wish netflix would let me browse and read descriptions with out the distraction of their autoplay. It's like if I was trying to google things and goolge inserted running background videos behind all search results. It's horrid

Re: Netflix Is Forcing Hollywood into a Talent War

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maniac is a prestige show.

I'm 4 episodes in and I still don't know what the show is about. It seems like its trying hard to channel some kind of weird, blade runner light vibes, but its doing a pretty bad job. Honestly if it didn't have some name brands in it (Jonah Hill and Emma Stone), I don't think it would getting the attention that it is.

It's a show about confronting your past, accepting loss, and growing past your old self.

I'm fascinated by the lukewarm response this show's received. It feels so refreshing to have a show a) tell you what it's going to do and then b) do it. It spends the first three episodes establishing the characters and the conceit, and then follows through on everything a narrative is supposed to follow through on.

Every major character has a "core trauma" that they must confront and move past. They ingest pills which put them into dreamlike states where they can fuse their trauma with mythological encounters, which lets them face their problems head on in a more abstract sense. Just about to the letter how Joseph Campbell explained the purpose of myths and legends.

Even the non-dreaming characters face larger-than-life scenarios they must overcome in order to overcome their own core problems. Without spoiling it, Dr. Mantleray (Justin Theroux) has a hilarious and way over the top problem that he confronts in an equally ridiculous manner.

Which reminds me of another facet of this show: it's not afraid to let you (or make you) laugh. Unlike Bojack's Flip McVicker, who says before his premier, "This show contains no intentional humor."

It's a tonic for people tired of Prestige TV. The "it gets good" syndrome, where we have to wait a whole season for any kind of "payoff" to hours of wheel-spinning, setup, and dissolution. I'm tired of mysterious characters doing weird things and waiting eight episodes to find out why. Plot is not a puzzle. I want to know the characters, to care about them, to know in clear terms what they want and watch them struggle to achieve that. Which, I think, Maniac delivers on.

Re: Netflix Is Forcing Hollywood into a Talent War

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post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I could not disagree more. Prime Video is by far the best user experience for me, and Netflix is by far the worst. I can't stand how Netflix displays related results when they don't actually have a particular result in stock. I cannot stand the auto-start feature where if you're browsing and idle too long on one item, it will start playing a trailer or synopsis. The sideways scroll under different heading is horrible…

Also if you start a show and stop in the middle because it is terrible, netflix will suggest it back to you for months and add it to your interest. I wish there was a "this thing sucks" button.

There is a convoluted way to do this via the browser interface, but no way on mobile / smart tv: https://help.netflix.com/en/node/22205
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