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Netflix Is Forcing Hollywood into a Talent War

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Re: Netflix Is Forcing Hollywood into a Talent War

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Most of these shows are junk. If you don't like comic books or dark murder based series you're not too happy with Netflix these days. It's going to be one big ABC now. What do you expect when you hire one person to churn out seven shows at once? Where's the creative risk taking? Shonda Rhimes? Ugh.

Their "adult cartoons" too. Most of the world got fed up with Family Guy years ago. We don't need endless low-effort clones.

Re: Netflix Is Forcing Hollywood into a Talent War

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Most of these shows are junk. If you don't like comic books or dark murder based series you're not too happy with Netflix these days. It's going to be one big ABC now. What do you expect when you hire one person to churn out seven shows at once? Where's the creative risk taking? Shonda Rhimes? Ugh.

It’s funny, before the ads annoyed me. But now I’m wary of investing time into any shows because I’m afraid of all the extra time they waste with filler content like unnecessary drama or actors looking at each other’s faces, presumably to make it feel like you’re getting more minutes of content for your money. But I feel like it’s wasting my time. At least I have the option of fast forward, though more likely I’ll ju…

The glacial pace of "Better Call Saul" springs to mind. I'm still sticking with it and it seems to be slowly starting to pick up (just in time for this season to end).

Re: Netflix Is Forcing Hollywood into a Talent War

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Actually no. It’s a switch in the compensation model. Networks have traditionally paid producers using sizable backend deals. If the show does well they do well. Example: Larry David. Netflix in contrast never does backend deals that way. It’s all laid up front. It actually means that Netflix shoulders the risk upfront. So Networks are now simply switching to the upfront higher risk model where you eliminate backends…

We know that Hollywood cheats on the backend deals anyways in a philosophy known as "Hollywood accounting", so good on Netflix for offering straight deals not subject to the lying and cheating that Hollywood is known for via their accounting.

>We know that Hollywood cheats on the backend deals anyways in a philosophy known as "Hollywood accounting"

is this still a thing? if the studio is promising $50k + 5% of "profits", but you know that's going to be $0 because of hollywood accounting (which everyone does), why would you assign that "5% of profits" any value? as a rational actor, you would see the compensation as $50k, nothing more.

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We know that Hollywood cheats on the backend deals anyways in a philosophy known as "Hollywood accounting", so good on Netflix for offering straight deals not subject to the lying and cheating that Hollywood is known for via their accounting.

>We know that Hollywood cheats on the backend deals anyways in a philosophy known as "Hollywood accounting" is this still a thing? if the studio is promising $50k + 5% of "profits", but you know that's going to be $0 because of hollywood accounting (which everyone does), why would you assign that "5% of profits" any value? as a rational actor, you would see the compensation as $50k, nothing more.

Last popular one I recall was Lord of the Rings, but I admittedly do not follow this stuff even remotely. Just recall a post, prolly on here, about it.

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It had a lot of special effects, that’s all I can say about this movie. Most people seem to have forgotten about the plot as soon as they stepped out of the theater.

I liked the story, the houmour and the characters. Can't wait for continuation.

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Re: Netflix Is Forcing Hollywood into a Talent War

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> “The increased volume at other places has worked in our favor,” says Casey Bloys, the head of programming at HBO. I do hope this is the case but I'm not convinced. Netflix's approach atm seems very strongly geared towards the middlebrow, which is perhaps the area their algorithms perform best. It's probably not very economical for them to target someone like me when there's still droves of people watching network T…

Maniac is a prestige show.

I'm 4 episodes in and I still don't know what the show is about. It seems like its trying hard to channel some kind of weird, blade runner light vibes, but its doing a pretty bad job. Honestly if it didn't have some name brands in it (Jonah Hill and Emma Stone), I don't think it would getting the attention that it is.

Re: Netflix Is Forcing Hollywood into a Talent War

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Most of these shows are junk. If you don't like comic books or dark murder based series you're not too happy with Netflix these days. It's going to be one big ABC now. What do you expect when you hire one person to churn out seven shows at once? Where's the creative risk taking? Shonda Rhimes? Ugh.

Their "adult cartoons" too. Most of the world got fed up with Family Guy years ago. We don't need endless low-effort clones.

Bojack is pretty good although they probably should have stopped after the second season.

Re: Netflix Is Forcing Hollywood into a Talent War

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Maniac is a prestige show.

I'm 4 episodes in and I still don't know what the show is about. It seems like its trying hard to channel some kind of weird, blade runner light vibes, but its doing a pretty bad job. Honestly if it didn't have some name brands in it (Jonah Hill and Emma Stone), I don't think it would getting the attention that it is.

I love the show and I'm happy I found it. That being said, I think you're right, I watched it initially only because Jonah Hill was in it. Come to think of it, I binge watched it for 2 nights and still haven't finished it, and if you asked me what the story line was, I can only vaguely describe it.
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