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Facebook to change user terms, limiting effect of EU privacy law

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Re: Facebook to change user terms, limiting effect of EU privacy law

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We need a domestic version of GDPR with penalties just as severe. GDPR is a much-needed godsend for privacy.

We should protect our companies or at the very least not harm them.

Right, because it's the poor poor companies who are being abused and targeted. Oh will you just think of the companies! Companies are people too! What would we do without our exalted job creators?

Re: Facebook to change user terms, limiting effect of EU privacy law

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> Earlier this month, Facebook Chief Executive Mark Zuckerberg told Reuters in an interview that his company would apply the EU law globally “in spirit,” How would they apply the law? They can't be prosecuted if they fail to uphold the same law. Saying "we'll apply the law in spirit" is just moral posturing IMO.

Asking them to apply an EU law globally is posturing as well. Both the question and answer are nonsensical.

Interesting though as they are selling to the rest of the world from Ireland in the first place to tax dodge.

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I don't use Facebook, but could one build a service that automatically sets Facebook's privacy settings to sensible options? A large part of the problem is that changing these through the web site is painful in the extreme. I suppose I'm asking if their API provides read/write access to privacy settings. If so, there's a big opportunity here. More generally, I'd like to see governments mandate that all FB user's priv…

Do you consider your privacy settings your personal information? Do you believe companies should just be exposing that kind of information to random other companies through an api?

Re: Facebook to change user terms, limiting effect of EU privacy law

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> Earlier this month, Facebook Chief Executive Mark Zuckerberg told Reuters in an interview that his company would apply the EU law globally “in spirit,” How would they apply the law? They can't be prosecuted if they fail to uphold the same law. Saying "we'll apply the law in spirit" is just moral posturing IMO.

Asking them to apply an EU law globally is posturing as well. Both the question and answer are nonsensical.

I'm not saying they should apply the law. I'm just saying that FB shouldn't say things like this (and in the future, they'll just backtrack with a "we didn't mean that" or some other spinon we're sorry)

Re: Facebook to change user terms, limiting effect of EU privacy law

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

We need a domestic version of GDPR with penalties just as severe. GDPR is a much-needed godsend for privacy.

We should protect our companies or at the very least not harm them.

So when the EU does it, it's protectionism.

But we get to "protect our companies" as a matter of policy.

Cool.

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Zuckerberg went to Congress and told them Facebook would support GDPR, as if the only thing GDPR is are just some controls you'd do at the user interface level (and as we learned today, that they're attempting to get around with dark pattern designs [1]). GDPR is much more comprehensive than that, but most importantly it gives data privacy regulators real teeth to enforce with (fines up to 4% of global revenue). The…

You are assuming GDPR is good. I don’t think so. I don’t want GDRP in the US. The worst abuser of privacy - right now - is the government. I don’t think putting redtapes on startups will solve anything.

Re: Facebook to change user terms, limiting effect of EU privacy law

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

We need a domestic version of GDPR with penalties just as severe. GDPR is a much-needed godsend for privacy.

We should protect our companies or at the very least not harm them.

We should protect our citizens, which is sometimes achieved by helping companies and sometimes achieved by harming them.

Re: Facebook to change user terms, limiting effect of EU privacy law

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Zuckerberg went to Congress and told them Facebook would support GDPR, as if the only thing GDPR is are just some controls you'd do at the user interface level (and as we learned today, that they're attempting to get around with dark pattern designs [1]). GDPR is much more comprehensive than that, but most importantly it gives data privacy regulators real teeth to enforce with (fines up to 4% of global revenue). The…

You are assuming GDPR is good. I don’t think so. I don’t want GDRP in the US. The worst abuser of privacy - right now - is the government. I don’t think putting redtapes on startups will solve anything.

Better start with baby steps than none at all.

Re: Facebook to change user terms, limiting effect of EU privacy law

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Zuckerberg went to Congress and told them Facebook would support GDPR, as if the only thing GDPR is are just some controls you'd do at the user interface level (and as we learned today, that they're attempting to get around with dark pattern designs [1]). GDPR is much more comprehensive than that, but most importantly it gives data privacy regulators real teeth to enforce with (fines up to 4% of global revenue). The…

You are assuming GDPR is good. I don’t think so. I don’t want GDRP in the US. The worst abuser of privacy - right now - is the government. I don’t think putting redtapes on startups will solve anything.

Just because we can't limit all players, we shouldn't even try to limit the vast majority of them? I'm not sure I agree with that logic...

Yes, the federal government is as bad (in reality, worse) than you say, but that's no reason to not take action against the thousands of other players that are blatantly following in their footsteps in terms of data collection.

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I don't know what a "factory dodging tax" is but the new tax code removes the need for profit shifting so FB wouldn't take a tax hit and I guess you won't relish that as much. And on that note what's with all the commies here?!

> And on that note what's with all the commies on HN?! I very much value the good faith exhibited on this forum. This comment is the antithesis of that. It is nothing more than bigotry.

That's weird. I don't see similar responses whenever someone calls those who lean right of center "Trumpkins" or other witty epithets.
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