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Facebook to change user terms, limiting effect of EU privacy law

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Re: Facebook to change user terms, limiting effect of EU privacy law

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So, does GDPR applies to ?: - European citizens only currently living in the EU ? - European citizens worldwide ? - Everyone currently living in the EU ? As a European living in the US, I'm wondering.

See Article 3, "Territorial Scope", here [1]. It's fairly clearly written.

[1] https://gdpr-info.eu/art-3-gdpr/

Re: Facebook to change user terms, limiting effect of EU privacy law

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post #11

So, does GDPR applies to ?: - European citizens only currently living in the EU ? - European citizens worldwide ? - Everyone currently living in the EU ? As a European living in the US, I'm wondering.

See Article 3, "Territorial Scope", here [1]. It's fairly clearly written. [1] https://gdpr-info.eu/art-3-gdpr/

I see it written there but that doesn't mean its enforceable.

Re: Facebook to change user terms, limiting effect of EU privacy law

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Zuckerberg went to Congress and told them Facebook would support GDPR, as if the only thing GDPR is are just some controls you'd do at the user interface level (and as we learned today, that they're attempting to get around with dark pattern designs [1]).

GDPR is much more comprehensive than that, but most importantly it gives data privacy regulators real teeth to enforce with (fines up to 4% of global revenue).

The only way Americans (or anyone else besides EU citizens) will get GDPR protection is if GDPR-style regulation is enacted into law.

[1] https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/986591125262749696

Re: Facebook to change user terms, limiting effect of EU privacy law

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As always, Zuckerberg is a lying slithering scumbag, I predict the EU will play his cat and mouse lawyer game and rewrite their law as much as need be to make it enforceable for facebook as it applies to their territory, and the fines will start rolling immediately . . . what will facebook do then ? Pull all any and all FB locations out of EU and snub them on the fines ?

Re: Facebook to change user terms, limiting effect of EU privacy law

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Couldnt they move all they servers to some thid world country and just dont care about Gdpr at all??

They'd also have to stop being based in Europe (they're officially headquartered in Ireland, because tax evasion), and (here's the kicker): stop doing business with all of Europe. Even if they had to say screw it and not do any targeting of their adds at all, it really wouldn't make any business sense for them to take their ball and go home.

Maybe so. Google bailed on both China and Russia.

Re: Facebook to change user terms, limiting effect of EU privacy law

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

See Article 3, "Territorial Scope", here [1]. It's fairly clearly written. [1] https://gdpr-info.eu/art-3-gdpr/

I see it written there but that doesn't mean its enforceable.

Yeah, I'm skeptical of the EU's ability to enforce their laws on someone outside of the EU (citizen or not) with a business outside of the EU.

Re: Facebook to change user terms, limiting effect of EU privacy law

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Zuckerberg went to Congress and told them Facebook would support GDPR, as if the only thing GDPR is are just some controls you'd do at the user interface level (and as we learned today, that they're attempting to get around with dark pattern designs [1]). GDPR is much more comprehensive than that, but most importantly it gives data privacy regulators real teeth to enforce with (fines up to 4% of global revenue). The…

Why would the US congress want Facebook to go out of their way to maximise their liability to a piece of legislation intended to cripple US corporations and supplement EU budgets with US corporate profits?!

Congress should convene a hearing about how current and incoming EU laws are thinly veiled protectionism against US corporations and what should be done about it.

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Zuckerberg went to Congress and told them Facebook would support GDPR, as if the only thing GDPR is are just some controls you'd do at the user interface level (and as we learned today, that they're attempting to get around with dark pattern designs [1]). GDPR is much more comprehensive than that, but most importantly it gives data privacy regulators real teeth to enforce with (fines up to 4% of global revenue). The…

Why would the US congress want Facebook to go out of their way to maximise their liability to a piece of legislation intended to cripple US corporations and supplement EU budgets with US corporate profits?! Congress should convene a hearing about how current and incoming EU laws are thinly veiled protectionism against US corporations and what should be done about it.

Are you certain it’s protectionism and not simply believing human beings have a right to privacy?

Re: Facebook to change user terms, limiting effect of EU privacy law

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Zuckerberg went to Congress and told them Facebook would support GDPR, as if the only thing GDPR is are just some controls you'd do at the user interface level (and as we learned today, that they're attempting to get around with dark pattern designs [1]). GDPR is much more comprehensive than that, but most importantly it gives data privacy regulators real teeth to enforce with (fines up to 4% of global revenue). The…

Why would the US congress want Facebook to go out of their way to maximise their liability to a piece of legislation intended to cripple US corporations and supplement EU budgets with US corporate profits?! Congress should convene a hearing about how current and incoming EU laws are thinly veiled protectionism against US corporations and what should be done about it.

Facebook might be known as a US company, but they pay taxes in Ireland (amongst other low tax territories) and hold most of their assets there to avoid paying taxes in US.

Re: Facebook to change user terms, limiting effect of EU privacy law

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Zuckerberg went to Congress and told them Facebook would support GDPR, as if the only thing GDPR is are just some controls you'd do at the user interface level (and as we learned today, that they're attempting to get around with dark pattern designs [1]). GDPR is much more comprehensive than that, but most importantly it gives data privacy regulators real teeth to enforce with (fines up to 4% of global revenue). The…

Why would the US congress want Facebook to go out of their way to maximise their liability to a piece of legislation intended to cripple US corporations and supplement EU budgets with US corporate profits?! Congress should convene a hearing about how current and incoming EU laws are thinly veiled protectionism against US corporations and what should be done about it.

It is not US corporate profits when it is from advertisements bought by Europeans for Europeans. Would you also suggest that the EU should not tax those profits?
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